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The conversation: Critiquing Operation Odyssey Dawn in Libya

Obama-Chile-Libya Should the U.S. have intervened in Libya? For many opinionators and analysts, the answer is a resounding no. They say it's unconstitutional and unaffordable; and that it's unclear whether there's a game plan. Here's some of the critique.

No-fly zone: A case of "be careful what you wish for"

As someone who supported a Libyan no-fly zone from the earliest days of what once seemed like a revolution but now looks like a civil war, I have to admit that Operation Odyssey Dawn may be a perfect example of being careful about what you wish for. […]

In the heat of the moment, Obama could have taken out [Libyan President Moammar] Kadafi without much of an explanation. But now he must offer a rationale that's very hard to square with what's going on in the rest of the Middle East. Obama says Libyan rebels must be protected from a leader who would kill them "without mercy." OK, does that apply as well to Saudi, Yemeni, Bahraini and Iranian rebels? No? Why not?

-- Jonah Goldberg, Los Angeles Times

The U.S. should brace itself for criticism

Regardless of its good intentions, the United States will be depicted once again as predatory and anti-Muslim, generating more terrorism in due course.

-- Edward N. Luttwak, Los Angeles Times

We can't afford another war

What seems so striking to me, though, from the perspective of being in Paris and London, is the default belief among so many in the U.S. that America needs to “be a leader” on this. I think that over time, whatever our tactical decision with respect to this particular crisis, we need very much not to be a leader in this sense. We can’t afford it.

-- Jim Manzi, National Review Online

So much for Obama’s word …

When your country fires 122 of 124 Tomahawk missiles into a country in a single day, and your pilots are doing bombing runs, then your country is leading a war on that other country. That's true even if the French President got his jets there first, and your president only announced it in a radio address from Brazil.

-- Michael Brendan Dougherty, Awl

This intervention is unconstitutional and illegitimate

There is no doubt that U.S. participation in the Anglo-French-American attack on Libya is completely unconstitutional. As Glenn Greenwald has pointed out, before becoming president Barack Obama, a graduate of Harvard Law School and a former law professor, accurately described the limits of a president’s authority to initiate a war in cases where the U.S. has neither been attacked nor is in imminent danger of attack:

    The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a     military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent     threat to the nation.

    As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the     United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his     constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent.

-- Michael Lind, Salon (Here’s a counterpoint to Lind’s argument from Jack Goldsmith at Slate.)

The pros and cons of a liberal intervention

This way of war has obvious advantages. It spreads the burden of military action, sustains rather than weakens our alliances, and takes the edge off the world’s instinctive anti-Americanism. Best of all, it encourages the European powers to shoulder their share of responsibility for maintaining global order, instead of just carping at the United States from the sidelines.

But there are major problems with this approach to war as well. Because liberal wars depend on constant consensus-building within the (so-called) international community, they tend to be fought by committee, at a glacial pace, and with a caution that shades into tactical incompetence. And because their connection to the national interest is often tangential at best, they’re often fought with one hand behind our back and an eye on the exits, rather than with the full commitment that victory can require.

-- Ross Douthat, New York Times

How the U.S. should have handled Libya

Was there nothing we could have done between sitting on our hands and launching something close to all-out war? Sure there was. We could've done what we did for Eastern Europe, which helped bring victory in the Cold War: verbal support and financial support for dissidents and democrats. Make clear which side we're on, but without overpromising. It sounds like the opposite of "Speak softly and carry a big stick," and in a way, it is. But it worked to defeat communism, and our track record with bigger ambitions in smaller situations has not been impressive.

-- Michael Kinsley, Los Angeles Times

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Photo: President Obama speaks about Libya in a news conference in Santiago, Chile. Credit: Jason Reed / Reuters

 

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Willie

We elected Obama President of the United States. He is just doing his job. People are entitled to their opinions, but only the President has all of the facts. Kaddafi is a madman and is capable of acts like we saw in Rwanda and Kosovo. We should reserve judgment on this, work with the UN, and support our President.

mchakravarty

In terms of military strategy, where is the difference between the previous government and the present one. Mr. Obama's election manifesto was pivoted around the unacceptable and aggressive war mongering policy of the past government. He is now wading waist deep in the same murky waters himself. He has continued the war in Afghanistan, Iraq and Waziristan province of Pakistan and failed to shut down Guantanamo. The UN manifesto on implementation of a no-fly zone has been actively pursued by the US and it continues to lead the participating countries in this direction. Having received the green signal from the UN, the US and its allies have transgressed their authority and launched a full scale missile attack on ground installations in Libya much to the surprise of the Arab League which had only voted to allow the implementation of a no-fly zone. In his opening speech at Cairo in 2009, Mr. Obama apologized to the Muslim world for apparent mistakes made by the previous government and spoke on re-establishing friendly ties with the Arab world in particular. Do we see anything of this so far? Campaigning for election is one thing but pursuing those campaign promises with success is quite another. Criticizing and demonizing past the government will lead the Obama government nowhere unless he shows his resolve to live up to his promises. 9/11 was an unprecedented challenge thrust upon the US and whatever followed has led to widespread pain and suffering. In comparison, where is the threat to the US from Libya that a full-scale war seems to be in the offing? Just a thought.

David in Fresno

Those in Congress who are seriously considering impeaching President Obama are finally doing something right.

Diner

Diner

World most exciting news "Libyan War". Western countries always find a issue for decline war against any country. And now they using their power. LOL........ I've found especial youtube video on:

http://fms.nu/eELzUM

They using "Gaddafi" for their war issue. I think they want Libyan oil.

802mrbill

The highly over-rated Michael Kinsley says: "verbal support and financial support for dissidents and democrats...worked to defeat communism."

Maybe in his dreamy view of history, but in reality, communism was defeated because it was a fatally flawed economic system, and the habit of all dictatorships to handle their poor economies by blaming "foreign enemies" led to unsustainable military expenditures.

All the talk-talk from the West ever did was to make the talkers feel good.


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