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Reader opinion: Team Boehner vs. Team Obama

Boehner"David, it's not my job to tell the American people what to think," House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) told David Gregory on "Meet the Press" on Sunday. "The American people have the right to think what they want to think."

The topic: Whether President Obama was born in the United States and is a Christian. The issue: Should Boehner set the skeptics straight.

In an editorial on the subject, our board suggested…

At the very least, Boehner should have added: "Even if it's preposterous."

And…

No one would argue that Boehner singlehandedly can extinguish these political urban legends. But he is in a powerful position to preach reality to his own partisans. That, Mr. Speaker, is your job.

On our comments board, ChuckMayhew doesn't agree.

The word, 'preposterous' perfectly describes this 'editorial'. Mr. Boehner answered that question about 10 times. Each time clearly and completely.

The only problem with Mr. Boehner is that he is not a left-leaning political hack.

Nor does Sericm, which you can tell from all the caps.

Another left wing radical article from the LA Times.

No sirs, it isn't Boehner's place to TELL the American what to think. Neither is it Obama's place or the left wiing rag called the LA Times. When Tim Russert died any objectivity on NBC's Meet the Press died with him. NBC  and it's clone MSNBC would like nothing better but to TELL THE CITIZENS  OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY, What they should believe or do.

Unfortunately for them the main population of this country are GOD fearing, conservative, USA LOVING individuals.

Backing us up, however, are such readers as tom921.

John Boehner reaction to Presidents' Obama's birth place is a typical reaction of Republicans who can't accept in their mind the fact that an African-American is the president.    His response is a disgrace to the American people, unworthy for the position that he holds, but this man has no shame.

If during the election campaign, Obama's people had made fact that John McCain wasn't born in the United States, there would have been an uproar.    From my understanding, McCain has never released a birth certificate with a seal.  Why not?   Was he actually born in a Panama hospital as other have whispered?  This does not take away from the fact McCain is an American hero but exactly where was he born?    

Commenter John Arthur cuts to the core of the issue for many.

The insistence that President Obama is of Them, not Us, is at heart racist and xenophobic. But the difference between Progressives and Conservatives is the difference between Hope and Fear.

Predictably, Pasquino Marforio, a regular on our comments board, has this comeback for John Arthur.

The difference between "progressives" and Conservatives is the difference between a "Certificate of Live Birth"  and a "Birth Certificate".

And there's Mind Tricks, who suggests both teams are wrong.

How stupid do you think the American gov't is?  It is unconstitutional for a non-native US citizen to become President.  Do you think that the entire gov't turned a blind-eye to his foreign roots?  And what does it matter if Obama were a Muslim.  Another little caveat slipped into the Constitution is the right to freedom of religion.  If anyone of accusers had their religious values challenged, they'd be up in arms.  I am all for poignant political debate and discussion but using these dishonest tools for political leverage seems so immoral and hateful.  I guess some people would be willing to contradict anything if it throws an opponent under the bus.

With all that said, I must give Speaker Boehner credit for his handling of the situation.  Rather than meet these dim-witted accusations with vigorous denials, he dismissed them.  Sure, his comment about "taking him at his word" was poorly worded but it does not give any fuel or headline material for Obama detractors.  

ALSO:

The tongue-tied speaker

Editorial: Obama's overly tame budget

Foreign entanglements: U.S. waffling highlights clash between interests and ideals

Saving Social Security

--Alexandra Le Tellier

Photo: House Speaker John Boehner and moderator David Gregory appear on "Meet the Press" on Sunday. Photo by William B. Plowman / NBC NewsWire via Getty Images)

 

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A.L. Hern

As far as I'm concerned, Boehner is a Muslim until he proves otherwise.

Tom

Team Boehnner....don't spend what we don't have.

Team Obama...leave the debt for our children and grandchildren.

Flying Wombats

instead of addressing the issue in this editorial, it just quotes radical leftists and some conservatives. democrats just want to keep thinking republicans and conxervatives are racist, though it may be true in some cases (for both sides) is really only because they don't support affirmative action. which in itself is racist.

if obama was a muslim that would not only be a step in the right direction for blacks in the white house but for muslims in the white. go first amendment :)

Susan Philips

Someone get Mr. Boener the GOP's weeping woman, a box of Kleenex and leave President Obama, the only honest and courageous man in the nation working towards constructive change, alone.

manuel rodriguez

Many of us thought that Nancy Pelosi's statement about the 2,000 page Obamacare bill, "we have to pass it to find out what's in it," was hilariously irresponsible. The press did not agree with us and they dropped the subject quickly. Now the left-wing press has a target they enjoy taking pot shots at- a Republican Speaker.So we have this meaningless "controversy" that the Times drones on and on about. No wonder circulation is down.

affableman


"Team Boehnner....don't spend what we don't have.
Team Obama...leave the debt for our children and grandchildren."

Just bet you were a member of "Team Bush" who took a projected $10 Trillion surplus and reversed it.

Sabrina

I find the whole concept of describing politics in the same language as sports teams disgusting. If people want to talk of "teams" it should be the SAME team as we're all American voters!

George

The LA Times could do all of us a huge favor if it would publish just one in-depth factual article on this issue. Things that a reputable newspaper of record ought to have long since informed the public about:

1. Why does Obama refuse to release the original birth certificate? There are any number of reasons floating around, but nobody's gotten a straight answer on that from the White House.

2. Is there any way that a person could not have been born in Hawaii, and still have a short-form birth certificate and birth announcements that say that he was? Hint: the answer appears to be "yes", and has to do with, among other possibilities, birth registrations by affidavit.

3. Has the definition of "natural born citizen" ever been conclusively established by the Supreme Court? Hint: not directly, and it would make for an interesting case based on analogous precedents, and some of the definitions would clearly exclude the current President.

4. What is the existing process for vetting Presidential candidates for eligibility, and how would it differ under the proposed laws being considered in a number of states?

5. Why hasn't the press sought to answer any of these kinds of questions to date? Is this not an issue of public concern and interest?

t.baghdaddy

George, as you well know, DNA was harvested from Der Fuhrer's bunker and secretly transported to Kenya, where it was spliced into a goat's genome. Li'l Barack's Mama was placed into a coma, artificially inseminated, and brainwashed into thinking she was on a Hawaiian vacation. Meanwhile, Gestapo agents were busy fabricating the certificate, known as Microfichegate, knowing their sleeper agent was destined to rule the world in forty-some-odd years. Everything had to fall in line perfectly, and it did. Only Sarah! can save us.

mccamman

Remember this:

One may be entitled to their own opinion, but one is NOT entitled to their own facts.

What Mister "Big Gavel", is doing is creating the psychic "space" within his party for those who still believe in the Birther story to feel at home.

His refusal to "tell people what to think" is defaulting to the position that people are in fact entitled to their own "facts", even if they are wrong.

Well, then, death to reason and the Enlightenment project.

mccamman

Remember this:

One may be entitled to their own opinion, but one is NOT entitled to their own facts.

What Mister "Big Gavel", is doing is creating the psychic "space" within his party for those who still believe in the Birther story to feel at home.

His refusal to "tell people what to think" is defaulting to the position that people are in fact entitled to their own "facts", even if they are wrong.

Well, then, death to reason and the Enlightenment project.

mccamman

Remember this:

One may be entitled to their own opinion, but one is NOT entitled to their own facts.

What Mister "Big Gavel", is doing is creating the psychic "space" within his party for those who still believe in the Birther story to feel at home.

His refusal to "tell people what to think" is defaulting to the position that people are in fact entitled to their own "facts", even if they are wrong.

Well, then, death to reason and the Enlightenment project.

mccamman

1. Why does Obama refuse to release the original birth certificate? There are any number of reasons floating around, but nobody's gotten a straight answer on that from the White House.
The state of Hawaii has a law that doesn't allow for this. The official in charge in Hawaii has stated that the original has been viewed and, in fact, they have released the copy he was given.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birther

2. Is there any way that a person could not have been born in Hawaii, and still have a short-form birth certificate and birth announcements that say that he was? Hint: the answer appears to be "yes", and has to do with, among other possibilities, birth registrations by affidavit.

But the hospital confirmed the birth as did the local paper's announcement, unless, Team Obama when back and chenged all of the newspapers.

3. Has the definition of "natural born citizen" ever been conclusively established by the Supreme Court? Hint: not directly, and it would make for an interesting case based on analogous precedents, and some of the definitions would clearly exclude the current President.
Maybe not the Supreme Court, but there is def. criteria ( See State Department and DOD regarding the births of Americans overseas)

4. What is the existing process for vetting Presidential candidates for eligibility, and how would it differ under the proposed laws being considered in a number of states? Common sense is the existing process. However, as we all know, common sense isn't all that common.

5. Why hasn't the press sought to answer any of these kinds of questions to date? Is this not an issue of public concern and interest?THERE ARE OVER 250 CITATIONS AND LINKS ON THE WIKIPEDIA SITE COVERING THIS ISSUE. THIS IS CONSPIRACY NONSENSE. USE GOOGLE BEFORE WRITING THIS (OR IS GOOGLE IN ON IT AS WELL).

SEE: Hofstatder "The Paranoid Style of American Politics" 1964. He saw then what we live with now.

ThomasFredette

Obama is not Muslim, he's Muslim adjacent. He takes us along with him on his apology tours and shames us in front of the world. He tells you with a straight face lies that you know are lies- but you can't call him a liar because we're all supposed to cut him a break. One long damaging break that lasts for eight years. The Obama media covers for him and shows their foolish Kool-aid gulping disease. The church that Obama and his Family went to? Reverend Wright's- remember? Yeah .... you Progs forgot about that, but we didn't! Obama's already gone ...............

mrbobj

I belong to Team Neither.

Al

Isn't the German name Boehner pronounced bone er....? I think I'm going to cry now.


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