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Congress versus Planned Parenthood: Game on?

To tweak a line of President Ronald Reagan's, "There they go again."

The Republican-controlled House of Representatives has voted to eliminate $317 million in federal funding for Planned Parenthood, not a nickel of which can or is spent on abortions, in spite of some of the political points that are scored by inferring that.

Republicans argued, as they have before, that putting so much as a nickel of federal money in Planned Parenthood -- which uses the money to provide services like reproductive health tests and checkups, pelvic and breast exams, infertility and safe-sex counseling to millions of women who can't afford them -- could actually be subsidizing abortions, because it's money that Planned Parenthood doesn't have to raise on its own to spend on those services.

One Republican-sponsored bill would even deny the standard federal tax credits to any private insurance plan that pays for abortions, the real motivation pretty obviously being to try to force those plans to drop coverage for a legal medical procedure. There are lots more bills along these lines, which purport to be about cutting the budget but that really, like the magician's trick of misdirection, are about cutting back women's reproductive rights.

So, here I go again:

Ten years ago, after George W. Bush was sworn in as president, he almost instantly rolled back abortion-rights polices and appointments. I suggested in a column that, for President Bush's first Presidents Day in the White House, Americans who disagreed with the president but agree with his wife, Laura (who is for abortion rights, as are Nancy Reagan, Betty Ford and Condoleezza Rice) should let the president know, and put their money behind their message.

Here was my thought: You know how, if you make a gift to a cause in someone's name, that organization will send the designated honoree a card noting, "A gift has been made in your name to xxx"? I envisioned sacks of such cards arriving at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue reading something like  "President Bush, a gift of $__ has been made in your name to Planned Parenthood."

And, as House Speaker John A. Boehner is fond of saying, "So be it." Or so it was. That suggestion wound up making Bush, indirectly and inadvertently, one of the biggest fundraisers in Planned Parenthood history, to the tune of about $1 million. Somebody revived my idea a couple of years ago, when it was learned that then-vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin had said in an Alaska gubernatorial debate that even if her own daughter were a rape victim, she -– not the daughter, but Palin herself -– would "choose life." That too made Palin an indirect benefactor of Planned Parenthood.

Now we have several members of Congress, foremost among them Mike Pence of Indiana and Joe Pitts of Pennsylvania, as major movers behind the legislation throttling women's reproductive rights in the name of budget cuts.

And once again, I must think that it would deliver no end of displeasure to them were they to find out that thousands of contributions were being sent to Planned Parenthood in their names -- that they, in fact, had become fundraisers for an organization they evidently despise.

Gentlemen, the checks, and the notes, may be in the mail.

And for you budget-conscious taxpayers: The Republican majority decided to let the Army go ahead and keep spending $7 million a year to sponsor a NASCAR driver.

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Darren Irwin

How ironic, that the very group that supports the horrific act of murdering millions of unborn babies every year, has little to say about the 50% of those innocent victims whom are future women? Oh yeah, they don't count yet.
Women that choose to kill their very own living babies are still mom's, just mom's now of dead babies. No wonder the Muslim's think we are so evil.

Darren Irwin

How ironic, that the very group that supports the horrific act of murdering millions of unborn babies every year, has little to say about the 50% of those innocent victims whom are future women? Oh yeah, they don't count yet.
Women that choose to kill their very own living babies are still mom's, just mom's now of dead babies. No wonder the Muslim's think we are so evil.

Mister Ed

You know, every conservative religious nutjob likes to brand himself or herself a pro-life warrior. And are all strongly against women having a right to abort an unwanted pregnancy.

And yet, once those unwanted children are born, they also make sure to strip them from receiving health care, a good education or any sort of benefit.

So much for being pro-life. To tweak a line from Jesus, those fundamentalist wackos are really just a bunch of Hypocrites.

Darren Irwin

Actually, there are a number of liberal atheist human beings that feel murdering a living, heart beating, body moving unborn baby is morally barbaric. It's not just conservative Christian males. Now Mr. Ed would like us all to use politically correct language and call the act of murder "abort", and it's innocent baby victim, "an unwanted pregnancy". I't's easier to digest in those words, easier to spin the truth. But like photographs of lynchings and the holocaust, photographs of the real victims of abortion are easily viewable via a quick search on google. Are you up to looking? Didn't think so, because it's gruesome, sickening, revolting, and horribly saddening to take real ownership of such a position. But come on, give it just 1 look, you owe at least that to the victims. And as Albert Schweitzer said, "Think occasionally of the suffering which you choose not to see". Abortion is murder, and the act of murder is a choice. And the choice is yours.

P J Evans

Why do Republicans hate women?

P J Evans

Darren, you're ignorant of what Planned Parenthood actually does.
They provide sex education, contraception, and vasectomies, ALL of which prevent unwanted pregnancies ... not that you seem to understand anything about how dangerous pregnancy actually is, and how critical it can be to abort one to save a life rather than lose at least two. Or how difficult it is for a woman to make that choice.

The anti-abortion movement isn't ever pro-life. It's pro-forced birth, and always, always, against women and their rights.

Sarka DiVito

I really don't understand these pro-life politicians. I guess they all have nice life or they really quickly forgot how it is to live paycheck to paycheck.
How do they expect people to financially support themselves with no healthcare and no financial support? It's not like we live in Europe and getting financial support from the government to stay home with kids up to 3 years (Czech Republic4 years!), even Canada is 1 year! In US? what is it..6 weeks? Ridiculous!
You want us to have babies no matter what kind of situation are we in? You can not invest into PP which takes care of womens' health? What kind of country are we living?

Bob

Darin,

My goodness. You certainly have a label for everyone. I think I'll make a donation to Planned Parenthood in your name, because I'm certain that like me, you want to support an organization that helps more women avoid the decision to abort through planned parenting than any other organization.

Darren Irwin

PJ, are you kidding me? Planned Parenthood was directly responsible for roughly 250,000 baby murders last year. Just last year! Planned Parenthood is also our nations largest Abortion provider. 90% and upwards of all abortions have nothing to do with the safety of the mother. You know these numbers and if you don't, shame on you.
And why exactly is abortion so difficult for mothers?
Because they are purposefully murdering their own living babies? Exactly! And we are suppose to feel sad for these 90% of mothers because it was tough to decide on whether they should kill their babies or not? Total insanity! Where is the sadness for the unborn babies that are being sliced up, tore limb from limb, burned alive in chemicals, poisoned to death close to a million times every year in the US alone. Planned Parenthood is an Abortion Factory! Planned Parenthood is not in the business of saving lives! Their own accounting shows only a pathetic Adoption Referral rate of under 2,500! Do the math PJ! Look at the pictures!
and to make it easy on all of you, here's an easy and quick link
http://www.google.com/images?q=aborted+babies&hl=en&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS286US286&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbs=isch:1&ei=Xz5fTdH5JoeasAPmhImGCg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBQQ_AUoAQ&biw=1117&bih=521
just copy, paste and click and then tell yourself the real victims here are the mothers who have to kill their babies! Don't be afraid, put a face on your choice.

Darren Irwin

Susan B. Anthony, the Mother of Feminism and Women's Rights, and her thoughts on Abortion- “Guilty? Yes, no matter what the motive, love of ease, or a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent, the woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed. It will burden her conscience in life, it will burden her soul in death; but oh! Thrice guilty is he who, for selfish gratification, heedless of her prayers, indifferent to her fate, drove her to the desperation which impels her to the crime.”
Half of all the victims of abortion are WOMEN!
And let's not even get started on quoting the Founder of Planned Parethood Margaret Sanger. Do a little google on her and how she felt about African Americans, the poor, immigrants of all colors etc. and you'll see from the start that Planned Parenthood has had an origin of evil from it's beginning.

The Photographs do not lie, look at what is being murdered!

Bob

Darin: 1) For every gross picture of an aborted fetus there's many more photos of abused and neglected children -- most of whom were unwanted. 2)Putting a murder - killing - label on abortion doesn't change anything anymore than calling capital punishment jury member sponsored murder. 3) Abortion related services clients account for only 3% of all the clients serviced by Planned Parenthood according to their annual report on their website (and they can't lie about this because of the Gubment money they receive -- state, local, and federal about 1/3 of their totaloperating funds. 4) If you want to criminalize abortion, just have your congressmen propose and let the people pass a Constitutional Amendment. Now why didn't you think of that?

piratesmee

Abortion is "murder?" Those of you who claim that, answer: Suppose a disaster in a hospital -- or you have to prioritize emergency resources -- and you can choose (or must prioritize) whether to rescue 20 test tube embryos or one child. Which do you choose? Obviously the fetuses, right -- to do otherwise would be to favor one life over 20. If not, your reasoning?

Amy Merriweather

Well played! Ms. Morrison you rock!

richard

when there is not one unadopted child left in this country ,
then i will understand the "pro-lifers" rants.
darren, how many unwanted kids do you care for ?(financially or otherwise)
how many abused or born drug-addicted kids live with you?
how many times have you been pregnant?
if you are against abortion,then you are for birth control .right?
i bet you dont mind some else paying for your viagra.
planned parenthood provides healthcare for the poor.
thats something that conservatives are always against.
(their political contributions are way too small to count in
republican eyes)
checks in the mail

geoffey n lachner

In a democracy, it is only appropriate that the woman make a decision about pregnancy. If she is guilty of some sin, then she will suffer the consequences. I am really annoyed by persons who think they are going to wash themselves of their own guilt by demanding that others abide by what "God wants." Who among you "knows" what God wants? Ever heard this one: "Religious people, at best you've got a hypocrite."

Richard Ivey

Actually the pro-lifers want abortions for people of color ("wrong race") and abortions to kill "anchor babies". Then their Tea Party buddies in Congress will make sure that any survivors get no Medicaid or Obamacare. With poor health the live babies will probably die off. Pro-life usually translates to eugenics. All the rest is high sounding words used for camouflage.

David

These are tough times and we are broke. This is a "nice to have" but necessary funding program that can be eliminated.

bizac

Darren, so how many unwanted children have you personally adopted? How many do you plan on adopting in the future? None, you say? Once born, they're no longer any of your concern? I'll bet you complain the loudest about welfare mom's, don't you? Unless you're willing to step up to the plate and adopt an unwanted, possibly drug addicted baby, consider yourself what you are -- a hypocrite.

Darren Irwin

The only issue, and the primary issue, is what is being killed during the act of abortion? Economics, healthcare, welfare, political party, religious views, drug addiction, orphans, time off to raise kids, adoption etc. are ALL secondary issues! The question everyone needs to answer is what is being killed? The proof is in the photographs. The pictures do not lie. Babies! Although some are as small as your pinky, others will fit in your hand/s, and some just weeks from being full term (yes, mothers still choose to kill their nearly term babies). The next question is are these victims innocent or guilty? They are helpless and innocent, and thus the act of killing them is now murder. Murder is the primary issue here. Not whether I or you, or the state can or will take care of orphans, or pay to keep moms at home, or provide better insurance. The issue is unborn babies are being brutally murdered by the thousands, everyday in our country! This is the first and greatest issue that is being discussed, everything else is spin and ones personal attempt to hide from the brutal truth.

Harold Jones

Why should the Federal Government be funding Planned Parenthood in the first place, no matter where the money is being spent?

Mike D'Virgilio

Read Abby Johnson's book unPlanned if you want to know the truth about what drives Planned Parenthood; it rhymes with contortion, as in the pretzel logic of those who think that killing a living human being simply because it hasn't passed through the the birth canal is a "choice." She worked at PP for 8 years and was the director of a clinic. That this pro-death organization gets one single penny of our tax dollars is a travesty.

California Observer

All of you who support completely defunding Planned Parenthood are hypocrites. Do you support defunding the military completely? Do you support defunding all crop subsidies because some of the money goes to tobacco which kills a whole lot of people in the world? Do you support defunding tax breaks to major corporations who kill thousands of off shore workers through unsafe working conditions and many more innocent civilians? Remember Bophal? Would you refuse to use any government money to purchase anything from Union Carbide for example? Nah---killing people is okay if there's profit involved. But you don't want to use any government money to pay for services from Planned Parenthood that has nothing to do with killing anybody.

Rather than limit your "defunding" to the procedures you despise (which already receive no funding) you pursue what the Republicans have always wanted---a denial of health care choices about even getting pregnant, or treating a sexually transmitted disease. And you deny these medical treatments because you think having sexual medical issues equals immorality---oh, except for Viagra.

Next we need to completely defund any hospital or medical clinic that offers counselling for birth control, or abortion, or end of life care---Put them all out of business---because you think your moral judgment is superior.

I just hope rational women make up their mind right now which party they intend to "throw out of office" next election----and FOR GOOD.

d. alexander

I want the religious nuts out of my womb. They claim to be small government and then want big government to control the body of women. They are no different than the men in the middle east that punish women when they are the ones that are raped.
The new bill by Republiklans would allow hospitals to let women who are in distress, to die rather than perform a life saving abortion. Why would the right wingers allow a woman to just die if she is in distress? I think people should read up on the conditions that threaten the lives of pregnant women. A couple of these are Pre Eclampsia and Eclampsia.

Mary

Game on?

The on-going obsession to control women's bodies and their rights. Historically and today that "game" always seems to be on.

Do you think there are enough unaccounted for deadbeats, rapists, and molesters' out there yet that should be controlled? How about a law that requires all men to wear GPS devices on their private parts and submitt a DNA sample into a national database to stop abuse? Game on? I don't see that "game" ever happening.

Yet, the focus remains on having power over and controlling women's bodies. Now, another round to re-enact abuse of women, a historically marginalized group of citizens to begin with, by taking away access to resources, education and support along with more of their rights to their own body.

Melvin Painter

Somehow I get the feeling that liberals think an abortion occurs when the baby just disappears. They don't know how the baby disappears, they just know the woman or girl got their choice. Little do they know that the operation is likened to one where puppies are thrown into a shredder. It is just as gruesome.

Paul R.

Who cares? If someone wants an abortion, just go - gasp! - pay for it yourself. If you want a car, you have to pay for it. If you want a meal, you have to pay for it. Or use a ten-cent condom and avoid the problem altogether. Why the feds fund abortions in the first place is a mystery.

Dbal

Am I the only one who sees that the real powers in this country have used this issue to divide and conquer us?

Both political parties must go. Only then will we really be free.

Amalgamate

most abortions-over 90%- involve a simple procedure and the removal of tissue less than the size of your thumb-and its formless
Bottom line-leave women alone-it isnt your business

curious-and no pro lifer ever answers-if abortion was allowed would you be in favor of the death poenlty for women who have abortions? because women will always have abortions legal or not...seriously-would it be the death penalty?

Lame

Darren Irwin YOU don't get to judge on this one DUDE. You are not a woman... you as a male have more rights as it pertains to health care. Early 90's heart care was based on studies that were male dominated thereby excluding proper care for women. Funny how those standards have changed...

As a male YOU dont get to have a say.

Darren Irwin

90% of abortions take place before 13 weeks. At 21 days, it's heart begins to beat. At 4 weeks it's arms, legs and face begin to form. At 6 weeks eyelids are forming, and At 10 weeks the gender can be determined by ultrasound. The baby is developing quickly now, everyday something new is happening. Between 7 and 11 weeks, he/she is now frowning, squinting, hiccupping, moving arms, legs and head, stretching, yawning and even at times sucking it's own finger! Now lets do the math and figure after conception, 3-4 weeks pass until a menstrual cycle is missed. For many women, this may be a concern, for others they'll wait until their next cycle. Assuming they don't, pregnancy tests are taken, a visit to an abortionist to confirm, and then the act itself. Perhaps if every woman/girl was provided with this information, instead of the "removal of tissue that is formless the size of one's 3 inch thumb". At 3 inches, a baby is visible, it has form and function and it's alive! And as a human being, I do have a right to say that it is wrong for a mother to murder her very own living baby, just as we all have a right to say it's wrong to steal, assault and murder any person regardless of their sex, age, color and religion.
Do a google image search on 6,8, 10,12 week preborn babies and then say it's only a formless thumb of flesh.
And then there's the other 10% which is close to 100,00 abortions after 13 weeks, shame on anyone that feels a simple choice of convenience should allow this barbaric practice.

AJM

Darren,

What you fail to understand is the history of abortion. Women have been getting abortions for thousands of years. If you choose to outlaw this procedure the only thing you will be doing is forcing women into back alley abortions. You will not stop them from happening you will only see more women dying as well as their "babies."

What you also fail to understand is that if it wasn't for Planned Parenthood we would have hundreds of thousands more abortions every year. Your perceptions of the facts of PP are completely skewed to your religious (aka irrational) way of thinking.

The last and most important thing you and all "pro-life" (only when it comes to unborn babies but kill any muslim that looks at you funny) republicans fail to understand is that no one in this country is pro-abortion. No one wants to see a zygote, fetus, or full term baby be aborted because it isn't the best option. PP educates, offers services, and helps women to try and seek every other option first. But they also don't want a lot of dead women in the world either so they make sure if they make that ultimate choice that is done as safely as possible.

Darren, if you really want to stop abortions then, rationally, you should want more organizations like Planned Parenthood out there. You, yourself, should go talk to Catholic priests and tell them to start endorsing the use of contraception. And, sure, keep showing people the gruesome propaganda.

But don't, for one second, think that, in America, you can tell people how to live their lives. Because if that is how you want to live, then I suggest you move to Iran. They love people like you.

Darren Irwin

"What you fail to understand is the history of abortion. Women have been getting abortions for thousands of years". AND SLAVERY WAS PRACTICED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!! DOESN"T MAKE IT RIGHT>

"If you choose to outlaw this procedure the only thing you will be doing is forcing women into back alley abortions. You will not stop them from happening you will only see more women dying as well as their "babies."
REALLY??? THE NUMBERS OF ABORTIONS IN THE US HAVE GONE UP BY THE 100,000's SINCE ROE VS WADE. HOW MANY WOMEN DIED IN FROM BACK ALLEY ABORTIONS THE 5? YEARS PRIOR TO IT PASSING?

"What you also fail to understand is that if it wasn't for Planned Parenthood we would have hundreds of thousands more abortions every year. Your perceptions of the facts of PP are completely skewed to your religious (aka irrational) way of thinking".WHAT IS MY RELIGIOUS THINKING? YOU DON"T KNOW IF I"M A BELIEVER OR AN ATHEIST,AND YES, ATHEISTS ARE PROLIFE TOO. RELIGION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, MORAL DECENCY DOES.
"The last and most important thing you and all "pro-life" (only when it comes to unborn babies but kill any muslim that looks at you funny) republicans fail to understand is that no one in this country is pro-abortion". NOW I"M A REPUBLICAN? IF YOU SUPPORT THE CHOICE TO KILL A BABY< YOU ARE PRO ABORTION JUST LIKE IF YOU SUPPORT THE RIGHT TO OWN SLAVES, YOU ARE PRO SLAVERY.
"No one wants to see a zygote, fetus, or full term baby be aborted because it isn't the best option. PP educates, offers services, and helps women to try and seek every other option first". 2500 ADOPTION REFERRALS by PLANNED PARENTHOOD LAST YEAR, A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND ABORTIONS BY PP ALONE. SURE SOUNDS LIKE THEIR BEST OPTION.
But they also don't want a lot of dead women in the world either so they make sure if they make that ultimate choice that is done as safely as possible.

Darren, if you really want to stop abortions then, rationally, you should want more organizations like Planned Parenthood out there. You, yourself, should go talk to Catholic priests and tell them to start endorsing the use of contraception. THE USE OF CONTRACEPTIONS BY CATHOLICS WILL DECREASE ABORTIONS, PLEASE EXPLAIN.

And, sure, keep showing people the gruesome propaganda. YOU SOUND THE LIKE KKK AND THEIR EXPLAINING THE LYNCHING PHOTOS, AND THE NAZIS EXPLAINING THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS. PICTURES OF ABORTED MUTILATED BABIES ARE EXACTLY THAT< ABORTED MUTILATED BABIES WITH EYES< TOES< NOSE, and FINGERS and FACES.

But don't, for one second, think that, in America, you can tell people how to live their lives. Because if that is how you want to live, then I suggest you move to Iran. They love people like you."LAST TIME I CHECKED< WE HAVE LOTS OF LAWS HERE IN THE US< AGAINST MURDER< STEALING

AJM

I just sent my gift in honor of Mike Pence, forwarded this on to my friends, and posted it on FB!

Love it!

jumpin julia

They are not babies until they are born. There are way too many of them, anyway, on this planet.
I care deeply about the quality of life of children who have been born and now have to be raised to adulthood. Other than that, I don't give a rat's.
I would prefer that laws not be enacted regarding abortion since they trample on my beliefs as a citizen.

jumpin julia

They are not babies until they are born. There are way too many of them, anyway, on this planet.
I care deeply about the quality of life of children who have been born and now have to be raised to adulthood. Other than that, I don't give a rat's.
I would prefer that laws not be enacted regarding abortion since they trample on my beliefs as a citizen.

AJM

Ok, Darren, let's try this.

Do you believe that a frozen embryo shouldn't be used for stem cell research? How 'bout the morning after pill? Is that an accepted form of contraception in your eyes?

If the answer is no to both questions then you and I are discussing on two completely different plains and we aren't going to change each other's mind.

Now on to something that may be more productive: Do you really think that defunding PP and, your dream, of enacting a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortions will actually stop women from getting abortions? Do you think it is ok for these women to go have back alley or cross border abortions and put their lives in danger? If you are so fundamentally pro-life this shouldn't sit well with you either.

My point is that NO ONE IS PRO-ABORTION AND EVERYONE IS PRO-LIFE. But some of us have a since of history and sense of pragmatism about the world. And some of us like showing people bloody pictures that do nothing to help stop abortions.

Education, not fear, is the answer my friend. Until you learn that, you are partly responsible for all those abortions.

AJM

Ok, Darren, let's try this.

Do you believe that a frozen embryo shouldn't be used for stem cell research? How 'bout the morning after pill? Is that an accepted form of contraception in your eyes?

If the answer is no to both questions then you and I are discussing on two completely different plains and we aren't going to change each other's mind.

Now on to something that may be more productive: Do you really think that defunding PP and, your dream, of enacting a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortions will actually stop women from getting abortions? Do you think it is ok for these women to go have back alley or cross border abortions and put their lives in danger? If you are so fundamentally pro-life this shouldn't sit well with you either.

My point is that NO ONE IS PRO-ABORTION AND EVERYONE IS PRO-LIFE. But some of us have a since of history and sense of pragmatism about the world. And some of us like showing people bloody pictures that do nothing to help stop abortions.

Education, not fear, is the answer my friend. Until you learn that, you are partly responsible for all those abortions.

jumpin julia

Sorry for the double post...
And now here to post another. It may be off-topic, and not of interest to those who are not Roman Catholics, but following the link below will illustrate the political nature of the abortion controversity within the Catholic Church.

http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=1677

Catholics are NOT unanimous in being anti-abortion, and neither were Catholics such as Thomas Aquinas and Augustine. This is not well-known.

The relevance is that here, again, we have abortion used as a political football, a vote-getter, and as a credential as a hard right-winger. I don't really think that many of these people would deny their daughters abortions...

MJLX121

The religious here cannot excuse the fetish of the unborn and the amnesia to the living. The utter sanctity of the fetus and the pure hate should it grow up to be gay. You are no different than the Muslim who inexorably link religion with civil law thus creating a backward and intolerant country. Their lives are NOT better off with man's concept of Allah's wishes and we would not be better off with your concept of god's wishes. In the end, we will not be ruled by you.

The Left is Garbage

Yes everyone! Let's support Planned Parenthood the founder of which is Margaret Sanger who founded it because she believed she would be cleansing society from people of "low intelligence" and to abort the negro race. Yes, let's fund this vision of Planned Parenthood with taxpayer dollars to help accomplish Margaret Sanger's goals. The sad thing is that there just are enough ignorant people out there that don't know the background of this organization and choose to blindly follow whatever a Democrat, some activist organization or some Liberal elitist says.

Lc49b1

No one is trying to stop you from having an abortion if you are determine to do so. We are saying, pay for it yourselves. I, the tax payer, don't want to pay for your irresponsibility.

Brett

"No one is trying to stop you from having an abortion if you are determine to do so. We are saying, pay for it yourselves. I, the tax payer, don't want to pay for your irresponsibility."

Your statement assumes that all unwanted pregnancies are the result of irresponsibility. You've failed to acknowledge pregnancies that occurred despite having taken the best precautions, as well as pregnancies that occurred as a result of rape.

Your statement also completely sidesteps the several other medical procedures, treatments, and education that Planned Parenthood provides besides abortion.

eyeful

To the self-righteous, all-knowing, bombastic Darren Irwin:

While you are scouring the internet for ginned-up photos of "murdered babies" please go the Medical Dictionary and learn the difference between "embryo", "fetus" and "baby." Maybe then we can have a real debate about this.

Until then, know that I (and many millions of other smart, good people) find your rhetoric as appalling and inexcusable as you find women's reproductive rights.

Until your fervent personal opinion is rendered LAW, may I suggest you stop caterwauling and simply acknowledge the legal and God-given right to choose?

embryo /em·bryo/ (em´bre-o) the developing organism from fertilization to the end of the eighth week. Cf. fetus.

fetus /fe·tus/ (fēt´us) [L.] the developing young in the uterus, specifically the unborn offspring in the postembryonic period, in humans from nine weeks after fertilization until birth.

ba·by (bb) n. A very young child; an infant.

infant /in·fant/ (in´fint) the human young from the time of birth to one year of age.

marjorie

If men always used condoms there would be no unwanted pregnancies and no diseases would be passed on - If men won't be responsible during sex women have to be. Planned Parenthood is not about abortion - it is all about education and access to health care - only women should be allowed to vote on this issue and only if they have adopted a child of rape or a child born drug addicted.

Exnavyemo

Every federal dollar they get allows PP to spend donations on abortions. Let them solicit funds for all their expenses rather than use federal money for anything.

Mike D'Virgilio

Eyeful, how ironic that you are so unquestionably blind, not to mention self-righteous and think you are all-knowing.

contraryjim

Abortion, is repugnant, but at times could be considered by many as necessary. Large segments of the population have differing views of it. Where in the Constitution or founding documents regarding the reasons for which a government is formed that it is mentioned? Or healthcare? Government today has grown like a cancer taking personal responsibility away from people. Abolish Roe v.s. Wade, NOT because choice is wrong, but because it is NOT the business of government. And certainly an affront to taxpayers to have those funds extorted from them be used for purposes for which they many be in disagreement.

Lc49b1

Brett, the bottom line, Planned Parenthood still provide abortion for a large percentages of women and their male lovers due to their irresponsible behaviors. I do not want to pay for that.

Liberals can call it what they want, an undeveloped human cell is still a living human being growing in the womb. There is nothing self-righteous acknowledging this fact. Something that is alive, develops and grows. A human cell grows into an infant, who someday grows into an adult.

Abortions were once used to purge a minority group from society. Many believe abortions today, are still being used for that same purpose under the disguise of, family planning. Most of these clinics are built in minority communities. This isn't any different than Hitler's action towards the Jews.

Mitchell Young

Regardless of the moral/public policy considerations of abortion, I find this 'campaign' of Pat Morrison to be mean spirited and childish. It is obvious that people like pence, or more especially a previous 'honoree' of this sort of thing, Sarah Palin, have strong moral objections to the intentional stopping of a human life in the womb. Indeed, Palin's objections are so strong that she consigned herself to what will certainly be decades of heartbreak (though no doubt also reward) as she watches young Trigg develop. (As I am sure everyone knows, it is overwhelmingly the norm to abort Down's fetuses in contemporary America).

It is evidence of spitefulness, immaturity, and a complete inability to even try to understand the others point of view, to send a donation to an abortion promoting organization 'in the name of' an abortion opponent. Morrison's glee at her entirely imaginary scene of a Pence or Palin eading lists of donors to PP and finding their names is more evidence of a mean spiritedness (not to mention a tenuous grasp of reality). It is totally unbecoming, and borders on identity theft in a moral, if not legal, sense. Perhaps Morrison could see this if, say, a group of evangelical Christians started a campaign to donate to Operation Rescue (or whatever its successor is) in her name.

You want to help PP, fine. You want to put a note in your donation saying Palin or Pence or Bush motivated you, fine. But stop hijacking other people's identities. You only make yourself look like a fifteen year old 'mean girl'.

Rick

There are some obvious logical fallacies being thrown around here.
1. All People against abortion do not adopt children?
2. All People against abortion do not care about the poor and underpriveleged
3. You have a moral right to tell me where I want my taxes to go.

As a career educator with a life long focus on "at-risk" kids, I am against abortion, but even more so against my money paying for it. Can I respectfully do all I can to encourage my taxdollars go for something I do believ in and not towards something I do not? Do I have the right to my opinion and my voice?

 
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