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Resolute Republicans to go after D.C.'s gays, symbolically

Jordan Ultra-conservatives in Congress have done themselves one better this week, having found an even easier target for their homophobia than gay voters: gays who don't have a voting representative in Congress. Some in the GOP want to bar gay marriage in the District of Columbia, the one city in the U.S. that has no voting power in Congress. The Hill reports:

House conservatives say they will pursue legislation that would ban gay marriage in the nation’s capital.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee (RSC), told The Hill that he will push for a vote on the controversial issue in the 112th Congress. The RSC has 175 members.

“I think RSC will push for it, and I’m certainly strongly for it. I don’t know if we’ve made a decision if I’ll do it or let another member do it, but I’m 100 percent for it,” Jordan said.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Jordan would wax democratic were those unelected judges on the Supreme Court to overturn Proposition 8 and subvert the will of California's majority. (In fact, Jordan cosponsored a bill  in 2010 condeming federal Judge Vaughn Walker for his Proposition 8 ruling.) Evidently, the principle of respecting the majority's wishes (D.C., if it were a state, would easily be the bluest) applies only to judges.

The vote would no doubt be a symbolic one, just as the House's action last week on healthcare was. Its only benefit would be to allow Jordan and his colleagues to go home and burnish their conservative bona-fides, having picked on a bunch of gays who live somewhere else and have no voting representation in Congress. Such displays of moral resolve go over better in certain parts of the country, I suppose.

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Photo: House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) participates in a ceremonial swearing in with Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) on Capitol Hill in Washington on Jan. 5

Credit: Jacquelyn Martin / Associated Press

 

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SC Guy

I think that it's very good that the GOP show that they still stand with the majority of Americans on this issue, even if it's a symbolic vote and the morally bankrupt Dems in the Senate filibuster it. Go for it, Congressman Jordan!

Joseph A. Mustich, Justice of the Peace

Jeez, so sad. Whose against marriage in the 21st century?

Onward to full marriage equality,
Joe Mustich, Officiant,
Red Studioi Farm, Washington Green, CT USA

And kudos to CT for supporting SSM since 2008.

Jason

"I think that it's very good that the GOP show that they still stand with the majority of Americans on this issue..."

...except that recent polling shows that more Americans feel we evil, sinful gay people should be allowed to marry than agree that we should not. As a gay man in a state that does not allow me to get married, my partner and I suffer from the lack of numerous protections married people enjoy. As citizens of the United States, we are doomed to pay much higher federal income taxes than straight couples, and even if we were allowed to get married in our state, the federal government would not recognize that marriage.

Fighting against gay marriage is a losing battle. One by one the states are extending equal rights to all their citizens. It's going to suck for you, being on the wrong side of history. I imagine it'll be how people who advocated against women having the right to vote felt afterwards, or people who fought integration of schools. History is going to look at you as a closed-minded bigot.

affableman

There they go again, shoving their religion down everyone's throats. Then there's the blatant hypocrisy of it since their the party of Larry Craig, Patrick McHenry, Mitch McConnell, Lyndsey Graham, Ted Haggard, Foley and damn, there's so many closet pervs in the GOP it's really hard to list them all.

semyon_suslov

3 of 3

To help keep it that way, please copy this post and read the essay on which it is based. Entitled "The Case for Limiting Government Recognition to Traditional Relationships," it consists of a blog that I wrote on Yahoo at http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HTB4W4CSYDBWN6R2D5ESTASCUQ/blog/articles/270046?listPage=index. Here, you’ll find a more detailed discussion of items 1 through 7, and citations to the scientific references (mainstream, respected, and apolitical references) on which the blog/essay is based. After reading it, please email this post and the blog to as many people as you can and ask that they do the same. Additionally, please post this information on blogs and in comments sections dealing with this subject; forward it to your elected officials; and call and/or email them, demanding that they vote against any law granting government-recognition to same-sex behavior. In this way, we can keep marriage and other forms of government recognition to between one man and one woman, as it needs to be.

semyon_suslov

2 of 3

Laws, in turn, must be based on objective facts, indicating the need for the law, and not soley upon the desires of a particular group. For homosexual behavior, the facts are clear and irrefutable. They show that same-sex behavior is subject to an elevated risk of bodily damage and disease and that the urge for the behavior is influenced, in part and in differing degrees among individuals, by cultural and social factors. Same-sex marriage is such an influencing factor, which is why marriage must be limited to one man and one woman.

semyon_suslov

1 of 3

I applaud the Republicans for standing up for what's right and voting for legislation that would ban government recognition of gay marriage in the nation's capital. For one, leftist politicians forced gay marriage on the nation's capital and did so by erroneously using a municipal statute that prohibits discrimination.

Their error in using this statute was to conflate homosexuality with a natural and immutable condition, such as race and gender. Unlike the latter two traits, the former one begins with a behavioral urge, over which the person typically perceives as having little to no control. However, what the person can control is whether to act on the urge or not and engage in the behavior or not.

Thus, homosexuality is no different than every other behavioral urge, the manifestation of which - behavior - is governed by laws passed by the people or their representatives and not by judgements tyrannically imposed by agenda-driven courts.

Eugene Omega Russell

But the Republicans are symbolically gay aren't they?

Shadow_Man


To those of you using the Bible as a weapon against homosexuality, you are wrong. Homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible is constantly being taken out of context to support anti-gay views. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, Greek temple sex worship, prostitution, pederasty with teen boys, and rape, not homosexuality or two loving consenting adults.


http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm
http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
http://www.christchapel.com/reclaiming.html
http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php
http://www.gaychristian101.com/
http://www.mccchurch.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Resources&Template=/CM/HTMLDisplay.cfm&ContentID=2121
http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence.html
http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian
http://www.goodhopemcc.org/spirituality/sexuality-and-bible/homosexuality-not-a-sin-not-a-sickness.html

Shadow_Man

For those of you claiming homosexuality is a "lifestyle", that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don't choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html
Gay, Straight Men's Brain Responses Differ
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html
http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html
http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/

There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. "Nurture" may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.


And it should also be noted that:
"It is worth noting that many medical and scientific organizations do believe it is impossible to change a person's sexual orientation and this is displayed in a statement by American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association."

Shadow_Man

The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individuals ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society.

From the American Psychological Association: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.

The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Association and American Psychiatric Association have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors.

America's premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality.

Shadow_Man

This was taken from another poster that shows why we need to legalize gay marriage. If you don't feel for this person after reading it, you simply aren't human.

"I am not sure what our President thinks of this dicission but coming from a poor family and knowing what discrimination is all about I would assume he would not care if "Gays" have equal rights. The whole reason why they are asking for rights to be considered married is from the same reason why I would be for it. My own life partner commited suicide in our home with a gun to his heart. After a 28 year union I was deprived to even go his funeral. We had two plots next to each other. But because we did not have a marriage cirtificate "(Legal Document)" of our union his mother had him cremated and his ashes taken back to Missouri where we came from. That is only one example how painful it is. His suicide tramatized me so much and her disregard for my feelings only added to my heartach. That happened on March 21 of 2007 and I still cannot type this without crying for the trauma I have to endure each day. Oh did I mention I am in an electric wheelchair for life? Yes I am and it is very diffacult to find another mate when you are 58 and in a wheelchair. "

Shadow_Man

The American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, and the National Association of Social Workers state:

"There is no scientific basis for distinguishing between same-sex couples and heterosexual couples with respect to the legal rights, obligations, benefits, and burdens conferred by civil marriage."

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/courts/supreme/highprofile/documents/Amer_Psychological_Assn_Amicus_Curiae_Brief.pdf

Thus, mental health professionals and researchers have long recognized that being homosexual poses no inherent obstacle to leading a happy, healthy, and productive life, and that the vast majority of gay and lesbian people function well in the full array of social institutions and interpersonal relationships.

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/courts/supreme/highprofile/documents/Amer_Psychological_Assn_Amicus_Curiae_Brief.pdf

The research and clinical literature demonstrate that same-sex sexual and romantic attractions, feelings, and behaviors are normal and positive variations of human sexuality.

http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/therapeutic-response.pdf

The longstanding consensus of the behavioral and social sciences and the health and mental health professions is that homosexuality per se is a normal and positive variation of human sexual orientation.

http://www.apa.org/about/governance/council/policy/sexual-orientation.aspx

Joseph A. Mustich, Justice of the Peace

Jeez, don't these "lawmakers" have anything better to do with their time.
Marriage is a civil matter in America, as marriage licenses are issued by and recorded in town halls, not church halls, mosques, or temples...

Thankfully...
Cheers, Joe Mustich, Officiant, Washington Green, CT. USA.

Mary K. Riewer

How disgraceful that in this time of economic catastrophe all the Republicans can think of as their top priority is to deprive law-abiding citizens of a basic human right.

We are over-run with illegal aliens. Middle-class jobs are disappearing. The tax base is eroding faster than a 9th Ward levee and all these mean spirited people can think of is how to disenfranchise law-abiding, tax-paying citizens.

Shame on you!
Mary K. Riewer

stanJames

Our own taliban in waiting. Just a slightly less virulent type then the woman who put 20 dem congresspeople in the crosshairs. Encouranging a classic schizophrenic ((per my psych professor) to murder 6 and wound many more.

BTW, if you look at his political ideas, they were totally full of contradictions that made no sense at all. The give away.

Reminds me of another guy who got others to do his dirty work. 55 Million died, while he only killed one person -a niece who rejected his advances. he of course was a psychopath. Hardly different in mentality then the fruitcakes of the west boro baptist church. Fortunately their following is much smaller.

stanJames

notice the russian spewing his hate. In his prev life he prob was a high official of the communist party. which murdered 20 million of their own people, and nearly brought us to the end of civilization.

Time to stop worrying about the Hispanics, who will work like dogs for thopportunities here. And throw out of the country people like Semyon_suslov.

hhey Semyon - I have friends who work for the INS, I am located near DC. Pack your bags

unclesmrgol

Shadowman,

The Devil often quotes Scripture, and tells us to ignore that which does not suit him.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P85.HTM

shadow_man

unclesmrgol: Notice how you could not refute any of my points. I clearly proved that homosexuality is not a sin and how anti-gays twist gods words to condone their bigotry.

blah

Ugh, Republicans. What do you expect? Opposed to voting rights for Americans in DC--because they vote Democrat. And opposed to marriage rights for Americans who are gay--because gays don't deserve to be equal to straights. At least we're almost rid of those right wing nuts in California.

stan James

Semyon_susolov = well, semyon, its nice to have a son who is one of the nations foremost experts on the internet.

Like some other names, eg Mary Waterton, he has traced these names to the Westboro baptist church.

the nutcases who go around with signs like "thank god for crippled soldiers, and who hate catholics, Jews, Amrica, Sweden, gays and anyone else that comes into their sights.

sorry boy the jig is up. As my Psychologist friends says of you and your kind - you are pathological liars and Psychopaths.

Go to http://ia700301.us.archive.org/18/items/AddictedToHate/MicrosoftWord-Document1.pdf for a free electronic book about this family written by a couple of the sons who left the KKKult long ago.

and http://hopeandpolitics.blogspot.com/2006/07/abuse-as-theology-fred-phelps-son.html for an article that summarizes these nutcases.

affableman

Here they go again, bringing that old time religious hate right back where they left off.

SC Guy, check the polls as you're and your ilk are in the minority.


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