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The conversation: Campaign to legalize marijuana still fired up

Prop. 19, 2010 election, California ballot measures Just because Prop. 19 failed doesn't mean marijuana legalization won't pass in 2012. The conversation is far from over…

Why California didn't pass Prop. 19? "The budgetary benefits, while not insignificant, would have been small compared with California's fiscal mess," writes Jeffrey A. Miron. "Mexican drug violence is mainly associated with the cocaine and methamphetamine trades, as well as from marijuana traffic to other states." [CNN]

Lack of young voters could have had something to do with it too.  [Newser]

It even failed to get the vote in Humboldt County, a haven for pot farmers.  [LA Observed]

Still, Prop. 19 won on one front: It made history and started a serious mainstream conversation. [Los Angeles Times Blowback]

Oh, but marijuana legalization will pass. "Not If, But When." [Huffington Post]


Most important, here’s what supporters need to do improve their chances in 2012. [Los Angeles Times Editorial]

-- Alexandra Le Tellier

Photo: Supporters of Proposition 19 watch election results in Oakland Tuesday. Credit: Noah Berger / Associated Press


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I agree with Huffington Post, its not if, its when.


From NORML's "Radical Russ" Belville:


Jack Straw

You forgot major opposition in the emerald triangle... asking them to vote for marijuana legalization is like asking West Virginians to vote for tighter coal emissions standards, it would cripple them economically. California let a prohibition get totally out of control to a point where it bred a black market that will never be cracked. I bet the 700,000 or so vote difference could easily be due to people who grow/sell marijuana that chose not to vote or chose to vote no because they knew it would affect their ability to make a ton of untaxable money by growing low quality sensi (yeah, the majority of commercial weed grown in California is not as "high grade" as you may think it is, just because it doesn't have seeds and isn't brown doesn't mean it's any good)

Alexandra Le Tellier

Thanks for adding to the conversation!

Stephen Morseman

With Proposition 19's failure at the polls it is time to come back to the conversation about medical marijuana. Despite the overwhelming number of patients with Prop 215 medical cards, they still do not have the federal government's recognition that marijuana has any medicinal properties. To help change this reality, we need to call for the expansion of cannabis research on the federal level in FDA approved protocols which will eventually lead to marijuana being approved as a prescription medication.

The advancement of scientific knowledge is blocked by a federal monopoly over the marijuana supply, which is held by the National Institute on Drug Abuse. NIDA, whose mission is to study the harmful effects of illicit drugs, has the ability to deny researchers marijuana even after obtaining FDA approval for their studies. This deters researchers from investing their limited time and energy into studies that are still politically contentious, thus forcing states to recommend marijuana despite its lack of FDA approval. Another source of marijuana is clearly needed.

Research must continue, but the DEA Administrative Law Judge Mary Ellen Bittner recommendation that it is in the public interest to license Professor Lyle Craker at UMASS Amherst to cultivate marijuana was rejected by acting DEA Administrator Michelle Leonhart.

Its time we stood up to the government and ask why the DEA has chosen to uphold an obstructionist federal monopoly.


Stephen Morseman


The proponents of Prop 19 did us a great service by creating a teachable moment as to who really supports civil liberties and who doesn’t.

The LA Times ran a whole series of editorials and negative articles against Prop 19 even including one piece entitled “A Conservative’s Guide to The Propositions” – as if the LA Times is now a bastion of conservatism.

Meanwhile the official record of American conservatism, The National Review, ran several articles in favor of Prop 19.

It’s not the libertarians, conservatives or TEA Partiers that oppose Prop 19.

It’s the Marxist Democrats.

California’s Prop 19 was not about marijuana. It was about freedom. And, as the Prop 19 campaign has demonstrated, Marxist Democrats hate freedom.

“Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.” - Ronald Reagan

We know from their written records that presidents George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both grew marijuana on their farms in Virginia – and neither one so much as applied to the state for a permit.

“Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.” – Thomas Jefferson

Presidents Bill Clinton, George Bush and Clueless Comrade Barry have all admitted to smoking marijuana to get high. Together with The Father Of Our Nation and The Author of The Declaration of Independence, that’s at least five presidents of the United States that would be felons under the marijuana prohibition laws of the federal government as well as several states– even though their actions brought no harm to anyone.

This is ridiculous.

It makes no difference what “unintended consequences” some post-modern Tory may imagine concerning a man’s right to do that which does no harm to another. For the spirit of man to ascend, men must be free to make their own choices, even their own mistakes, especially, in fact, their own mistakes. The Founding Fathers understood this and supported a man’s right to make his own choices including his own mistakes.

“It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.” – George Washington

In the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, no one cares what you smoke or how many harmless plants you grow as long as you’re not out trying to rape, rob or murder somebody or figure out a way to scam a handout from your productive countrymen.

How can a man be said to be free if he doesn’t even have sovereignty over his own body?

We need to send these Nanny State Fascists back to Europe where they belong and return this country to the Rugged Individualists who know what freedom and free enterprise are all about.

“Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.” – Abraham Lincoln

Sic simper tyrannis.

FHA quality control

Marijuana should not be legalized. Right now, wherein it is prohibited, there are still many who abuse it, how much more if it is being legalized? I guess all will become insane!


Windfall, your claim that it is "Marxist" Democrats that are standing in the way of legalizing cannabis is directly contradicted by every poll I've seen. Democrats are most likely to favor legalization, with independents usually similar to Democrats, and Republicans as a group strongly opposed. I'm well aware that libertarian conservatives are playing an important intellectual role in the campaign to restore the freedom of adults to use cannabis, but as far as convincing conservatives, Republicans and Tea Partiers, they still have their work cut out for them. The Tea Parties can't even endorse the freedom of seriously ill people to use medicinal cannabis, for heaven's sake! And they won't even DISCUSS the subject of recreational use of cannabis. If you have different information than this about the Tea Parties and cannabis, I'd like to hear it.



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