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No one should have to read the same Facebook posting over and over

no one should have to; health care reform

Facebook logo And for today's Facebook fad:

No one should die because they cannot afford health care, and no one should go broke because they get sick. If you agree, please post this as your status for the rest of the day.

Posted, verbatim, again and again -- although how often would depend on who your Internet friends are.

All sympathies with the idea that people should not die for lack of health care and so forth, but I'm wondering exactly what the viral campaign is supposed to accomplish except for making the eyes of these folks' "friends" glaze over? Its bigger effect might be to get people to avoid social networking for the rest of the day in the hopes that this goes away and someone offers his or her own, more thought-provoking comment on the subject tomorrow.

Photo credit: Loic Venance / AFP/Getty Images

-- Karin Klein

 

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Roger Woodner

I was happy to change my status to let my few hundred Facebook contacts know that I agree with the statements "No one should die because they cannot afford health care, and no one should go broke because they get sick."

If you want to try to cynically boil it down to a PR ploy, that's your prerogative. For me, it's a quick way to express a heartfelt opinion about healthcare to my friends.

Carrie

I'm sorry our form of protest bores you. How very inconvenient it must be for you that you have had to read that slogan multiple times. When you change jobs and have to change doctors, or lose your job and your insurance at the same time, maybe you'll be heartened by the fact that your friends care, because you find the issue more personally compelling. For my part, even if I had health insurance I'd be heartened by this new use of social media.

Tony

This is great for those who are actually on Facebook. The other 95% of the world haven't a clue.

John Heida

Nobody should die standing in the long lines of socialized government run health care. Nobody should die because the breakthroughs in medicine stopped the moment Obama took away the free market!

Bob Lincoln

Do you have any thought-provoking comments on the subject that you would like to share? Or just empty criticisms of the desire of thousands of people to do something positive?

Wendy Ledger

I thought it was a powerful way to demonstrate that unlike what "journalists" are "reporting," that many people very much want health care reform. Your "All sympathies statement" reeks of insincerity... I was heartened by the Facebook post. I did not enjoy reading your sentiments.

David Levitsky, somema.org

I wholeheartedly disagree, Facebook and Twitter and evolving as methods not only for individual self-expression, but also of the group consciousness. At last count Google report over 3M search results containing the exact theme. Would it have worked better as a Trending Topi on Twitter to make news? Most certainly. But given the ubiquity of the meme, and the so-far lack or willingness of the popular majority to rear its collective mindset, this most certainly is a milestone of sorts. Perhaps you enjoy watching re-runs of mindless sitcoms on cable more fulfilling and world-changing. The FB community deserves kudos not cynicism and if and when I move to LA, which will happen when hell freezes over, I most certainly will not read any of your stay-on-couch drek.

JKK

I agree w. Roger W. I was happy to change my FB status & encouraged to see others do the same. It's symbolic, a counterweight to the media images of town hall loonies going berzerk .

what's so wrong with a little hope & encouragement???

Ned Gladstone

Perhaps your "friends" are so self-centered that they would immediately "glaze over" if you posted a social plea as your status, but that generalization cannot be made of everybody who uses social media. My apologies if you were offended by having to do without a day's worth of "I'm taking out the trash while listening to U2", but sometimes things in the world percolate to a level deserving of a little statement. And no, nobody using their Facebook status to make a political statement thinks that they are single-handedly changing the world with their small shout into the void. Self-expression is meaningful in its own right, and at least we can see which of our friends still has a desire to make the world a bit more fair.

Mike Sears

The Facebook status lines were slightly less annoying than watching and hearing the self-proclaimed 'libertarians' reveal their lack of understanding of that term, or their ignorance of the 'socialist' policies that they were against. But regardless, this strategy has been used for other causes on Facebook. It is interesting that the LA Times noticed this one.

JT

Karin,

I agree that I would not want to look at the same post over and over again.
But you have to admit it was an example of many people expressing the same sentiment and showing their numbers. I think it served as a good test case for viral social activism. FaceBook is approaching 300 million active subscribers. Just imagine if only 10% of them does something like this again. I think in the future it could be a powerful way to express widespread public discontent.

The question is who will notice. You did, and you wrote about it in a very visible forum. LA Times Opinion section on the net. And of course those with more than a few hundred friends will notice.

I truly wonder whats the FaceBook stats are on this. Unfortunately there are too many words in the posts to check on our own.

E

i very sarcastically hope that this crucial debate hasn't impeded your ability to know from which coffee shop/crosswalk your friends are texting/tweeting. my bad. i'll take my dying compatriots elsewhere, so at to not further offend you.

Jamie

Roger. Dude. Be original at least. I bet you have it in you.

James Thomas Green

This "editorial" sounds like it was written by a teenager who's pompusly trying to show how cool they are by slamming someone else they think is uncool.

This multiple posting of updates is a showing of mass solidarity, and a sign of democracy in action.

It is a good thing, except for the insurance companies and their bought political pawns.

beachdog67

Funny. That's not the way I saw it at all.

To me, it felt a hell of a lot more like the cyber equivalent of seeing just about everybody in town lay down what they were doing for an afternoon to all gather in the square and stand in quiet solidarity and witness.

I'm sorry that wasn't your experience, Karin. Sounds like my perception may have been a lot more inspiring and edifying than yours was. Unless, of course, smug superiority is your idea of a good time.

Frédérique

Pourtant il est pas mal celui là de post, pas centré sur son nombril pour une fois

bkl

I just checked. I divided the number of people who posted this by my total number of friends. Only 7% of my friends support health care reform. So much for the tidal wave of protest.

Liz Burns

THIS is "The best in Southern California opinion journalism"? How unfortunate. I wish we could replace your souless remarks with the thoughtful commentary I'm seeing right now. How does it feel to be so despised?

Cheryl

I never realized the free market was responsible for the scientific curiosity and academic policy underlying most of the research surrounding disease and treatment.....

Jon Healey

Amazing how this little bit o' criticism of the public discourse has generated so much, err, discourse. The LA Times editorial board did two big opinion pieces this week about healthcare reform -- one blasting proponents of an incremental approach (http://bit.ly/aZFQU) and one discussing insurance for abortions (http://bit.ly/3Iiip0) -- and they've drawn few comments, if any. Alas, that's been true of many of the editorials in the series the board has done on healthcare reform (http://bit.ly/MQbo3).

pam

Seeing this post multiple times was annoying, but even more important, ineffective. We are generally "friends" on facebook with people who share our political sentiments. Talk about preaching (in an especially preachy way) to the choir! "Protest" is fine, political activism is fine, but originality is what gets others' attention. Just like the thousands of same-colored postcards or identically-worded e-mails to elected officials that are simply tallied and then generally ignored, this facebook status update "protest," as so many who changed their status felt it was, was completely ineffective.

there in 1969

I'd be willing to bet that because of your criticism, the number of times people will "have" to read "No one should die because they cannot afford health care, and no one should go broke because they get sick. If you agree, please post this as your status for the rest of the day." will increase. People care more about what their friends, from Facebook and elsewhere, believe than what a cynical "writer" in the LA Not-With-The-Times has to say. Have a nice day!

Tracey Somerville

"...but I'm wondering exactly what the viral campaign is supposed to accomplish except for making the eyes of these folks' "friends" glaze over?"

How about thoughtful debate on the topic? That's precisely what happened on my page. Perhaps you'll remember these posts when you've been fired for being such an inadequate journalist and find yourself without heath insurance.

Good luck!

John

No one forced people like me to update their Facebook status with this very sensible and plainspoken opinion. Each person got to choose. If it bothers you that so many people chose to post this, too bad. I did it because it states in simple terms my own hopes and goals, and because when it comes to the issue of heathcare reform, there's been far too much screaming and hysteria and fearmongering. Be cynical about it if you want; I see it as a sign of hope that reasonable voices are being heard.

Wade

And I find the repetitive selfish and greedy attitudes toward healthcare for all annoying too, but there they are...

Ken

I was glad people posted it. Now I know exactly which of my contacts thinks I should be forced to pay for their hypochondria under threat of prison.

surfwidow

Here is my impression of the obama lama ding dongers,
WAAAHHH!! Im poor and opressed too mr. obama (With hand held out for spare change). I want MY entitilements...NOW!
We should ALL be equal. Reward the poor and penalize the rich! Barf. Paahleeze! Shut up you friggin liberal democrats. Dont you people have an illegal immigrant to go pander to?

Carol T. from Burbank

You can be sure that Dick Armey's shills are saturating their friends' facebook pages with spurious claims of death panels and health care rationing.

Clare

Well, this is certainly an article of substance.

Clare

Then don't read it.

Julie McIntosh

No one should die for any reason ever, and every human being should have a million dollars at all times. I want a pony. If you agree, please post this as your status for the rest of the day.

Luther Setzer

It is morally acceptable to allow one's neighbors to die because they cannot afford medical care, and it is morally acceptable to allow one's neighbors to go broke because they get sick. If you agree, please post this as your status for as long as you like. Health care is NOT and should NOT be a right or an entitlement!



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