Poll: Lift the Cuba travel ban?
Long Beach Democrat Laura Richardson and a few other members of the U.S. House scored some private face time today with ex-Cuban President Fidel Castro -- a feat that, as Sergio Muñoz pointed out a few weeks ago in a Times Op-Ed article, many Latin American presidents have tried but failed to achieve. Reuters reports:
The meeting took place at a time of possible change in long hostile U.S.-Cuba relations, spurred by U.S. President Barack Obama's promises to take steps toward normalizing ties with the communist-ruled island, 90 miles from Florida.
Three members of the seven-member visiting U.S. delegation met Fidel Castro at the end of a trip in which they also met with President Raul Castro, who took over from his ailing brother last year.
[Rep. Barbara] Lee [D-Oakland], who led the U.S. group, and the other delegates said in Washington that Fidel Castro appeared eager to do his part to improve links between the countries.
"He was very well aware of what was going on," said Representative Laura Richardson. "As he leaned in, he looked directly into our eyes, quite aware of what was happening, and said to us 'how can we help President Obama?'"
Funny, I was under the impression that Castro's reluctant abdication of the Cuban presidency to his brother in 2006 because of illness was the best thing the former dictator could do to improve his nation's relations with the U.S. I can't imagine that having Castro -- the man who established a Communist Party-run state 90 miles from the Florida Keys in 1959 and allowed Soviets to park nuclear-tipped missiles there in 1962 -- play a role in improving U.S.-Cuba relations would help at all. (Of course, the U.S. is arguably just as culpable in getting the two countries to where they are now, having attempted to assassinate Castro many times, among other things.)
But I digress. As the Reuters article notes, the meeting is worth noting because the Obama administration is considering loosening the 47-year-old travel ban that bars nearly all Americans from going to Cuba. As this recent South Florida Sun-Sentinel article notes, a growing number of lawmakers want to go further by completely doing away with the travel ban.
As potential American tourists to Cuba, what do you think about easing restrictions on commerce and travel between Cuba and the U.S.? Take our unscientific poll.
Photo: Raul Castro grips and grins with Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Oakland). Credit: Juvenal Balan Neyra / AFP / Getty Images



. Dear av2ts
Yes, there is a law, of course, but a very arbitrary law. So arbitrary and unfair that I know very old doctors that had to pay with 5 years of waiting and more and some of them could never leave (case Dr, Molina). A reasonable law would be one that says that you have to work for the Public Health System for 5, 10 years whatever and then be free to leave. In Cuba it does not matter how long a doctor has worked. They have to be in Cuba for 5 more years. No, I do not understand this “law” as well as you.
And the “law” that keeps apart children from their parents that desert? It is a punishment not a law. A law made by a dictator, please, let me doubt about how legal that law is.
The Cuban government does stop people from leaving. Absolutely. Go and check on the case of Dr. Molina (very, very old lady and doctor), Hector Palacios, Las Damas de Blanco , Yoani,. They refused them permission for leaving and coming back for political reasons.
I have to wait so long for leaving, months and months. I was afraid of not being able to. Do you think this is fair?
And for leaving, it is not enough a visa, you need an invitation letter. If you are planning coming back to Cuba you have to pay to the Cuban government for every extra month you stay in the foreign country ($$ 150 dollars). It is the law.
And the worst is that in Cuba I do not have the right to say that this unfair. I can not change the “law”. I can not say it because it means to be political persecuted.
I feel afraid even from here. I have my parents there, and I feel afraid of telling my name. I am not paranoid; I know how the things work in Cuba.
Cuba is a country without freedom.
Regards,
Posted by: Canela | April 09, 2009 at 01:48 PM
Dear av2ts
Yes, there is a law, of course, but a very arbitrary law. So arbitrary and unfair that I know very old doctors that had to pay with 5 years of waiting and more and some of them could never leave (case Dr, Molina). A reasonable law would be one that says that you have to work for the Public Health System for 5, 10 years whatever and then be free to leave. In Cuba it does not matter how long a doctor has worked. They have to be in Cuba for 5 more years. No, I do not understand this “law” as well as you.
And the “law” that keeps apart children from their parents that desert? It is a punishment not a law. A law made by a dictator, please, let me doubt about how legal that law is.
The Cuban government does stop people from leaving. Absolutely. Go and check on the case of Dr. Molina (very, very old lady and doctor), Hector Palacios, Las Damas de Blanco , Yoani,. They refused them permission for leaving and coming back for political reasons.
I have to wait so long for leaving, months and months. I was afraid of not being able to. Do you think this is fair?
And for leaving, it is not enough a visa, you need an invitation letter. If you are planning coming back to Cuba you have to pay to the Cuban government for every extra month you stay in the foreign country ($$ 150 dollars). It is the law.
And the worst is that in Cuba I do not have the right to say that this unfair. I can not change the “law”. I can not say it because it means to be political persecuted.
I feel afraid even from here. I have my parents there, and I feel afraid of telling my name. I am not paranoid; I know how the things work in Cuba.
Cuba is a country without freedom.
Regards,
Canela
Posted by: Canela | April 09, 2009 at 01:35 PM
Canela, the reason some Doctors can not get up and leave is that there is a Law that says Doctors need to pay back the Cuban people for their free education before they are allowed to desert. The Cuban people can not just expect to pay thousands of dollars to eduate doctors for 8 years and then have them leave the country to practice in Miami. So you have to work in country for a while first. This is not unusual, many countries have such laws - and they are only fair to taxpayers. Everyone understands this very well. But the Government does not stop anyone else from travelling and leaving, as others from Cuba have shown here. There is a bureacratic process that perhaps needs some changes (there were Government officials saying that was next in line to be changed last year). But if you follow the procedure, you will be granted an exit visa.
Posted by: av2ts | April 09, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Dear av2ts,
I am Cuban.
First, I complete agree, your right to travel can not be negotiable. It is a complete mistake do not let the American people to go to Cuba. You should agree with me that the Cuban people’s right to travel should not be negotiable too.
The bitter reality is that Cuban people can not travel without permission from the government. This is not a formality, this is a real permission. Giving this permission takes so long that sometimes you have to renew the visa of the country you are going to visit not one, but three times. If they don want, you do not travel. When you ask for the permission you have to have an invitation letter, you can not travel because you want. This is humiliating.
Some people like member of the political opposition (constitutional illegal, because the Cuban law do not permit any opposition) never receive the permit.
Second and third, Cuba dos not have observed election, neither no-observed election, Cuba does not have elections at all.
The government prepares a play and the Cubans go to vote. Do not believe in the Cuban Government statistic, the election is a farse. Imagine election with a unique party, and with the constitutional prohibition of association. Imagine elections without any kind of free press.
All the papers and TV channels and radio station are property of the government and they only say the official version, the allowed version, the Castro version of de success.
It is sad.
Cuba is not socialist and anti-imperialist., the dictators, the brothers Castros are.
In Cuba many fight against the dictatorship and are persecuted and put in jail for many years.
The problem of Cuba is not simple and punctual weaknesses, the problem is that Cuba is governed for a dictator and no human rights are respected.
I agree with you, maybe ending the policy of blockade is good and better for the Cuban people, but I think that USA do not have to accept a dictator say “How can I help you?” . Fidel Castro giving Obama advice and help, I can not even imagine.
Regards,
Canela
Posted by: Canela | April 08, 2009 at 04:44 PM
Abel, you know that the doctors and other health workers have to wait for 5 year to leave the country (even with the visa and their expenses graciously covered by a friend). Some children has been apart from their parents for years (3 years is the norm) in the case that the parents are residents without permission in other country. They consider them traitors and do not let the children reunite with them. That is true. Dissident political activist are not allowed to leave the country if it is not a definitive leave.
Please, look on internet for the case of Dra, Hilda Molina. Look for Hector Palacios. Look for the Damas de Blanco. Look for the Cuban Political Prisoners, Look for Dr, Biscet. Look for Antunez. In Cuba you don not have freedom.
Posted by: Cuban Canela | April 08, 2009 at 02:48 PM
av2ts I was born and I grew up in Cuba. Cuba is a country without freedom, with a unique party, with political prisoners, without press freedom. You can not leave Cuba without a government permit. It is true.
In Cuba you talk against the government and an officer goes to you house to “advice” you. It is terrifying. I lived that. I felt afraid of being myself and express my ideas.
I believe that the US citizens and all the people in the world have to have the right to go whenever they want to. But the Cuban citizen too, they deserve freedom and they do not have it.
We deserve freedom. If you believe in justice and democracy, please, do not abandon us.
Posted by: Canela | April 08, 2009 at 02:29 PM
Alisa, I have been to Cuba. And like most who visit, the difference versus other Latin/Caribbean nations is striking in terms of their well educated, healthy, well clothed, well housed people and cities. They have simply taken a different path - one that yes, surely involves material sacrifice for their ideals. If the Cuban people want to switch paths that is up to them.
If Cuba had no medicines, no ambulances, no bandages as you say, then how does the US rank lower than them in many health care categories ?? Now yes, there are shortages at certain times on certain things we may take for granted. But the picture is not at all what you describe. Cuba's heath care is praised by all serious people who study such things, particularly for the cost. It is highly efficient and takes things like prevention just as important as the fancy latest technology or pill.
To say Cubans break into Gitmo because the prison conditions are better than their life, you must be joking. The handful of incidents like you describe only occur because Gitmo is US soil, and under our idiotic Cuba laws, we grant automatic US residency to people who touch US soil. Get rid of this huge inducement and people will not be risking their lives to get here.
Also. the Cuban Navy does not shoot anyone. There was one incident, where a boat was hijacked, but even then guns were not used. This is propaganda and lies.
And Cuba does not need "saving." They just want a fair shake at development like anyone else.
Posted by: av2ts | April 08, 2009 at 11:58 AM
I would rather no comment on what Alisa said. I am so sorry to tell her that my family goes to hospitals and gets treated, fed and medicated with perfectly good drugs, not from "party hospitals" (by the way, which are those?) or from tourist. I dont have anybody aborad to send me medicines, so we get along with what we get at the hospitals, and pharmacies. You might like it or not, but Cuban health system is not a joke. If you dont like stadistics, go around and ask whenever you come. But dont forget this is a poor country, not America. Still we manage.
Posted by: Abel | April 08, 2009 at 11:47 AM
I am tryly amazed about some comments I have read here....eho said we Cubans can not go and come as we wish. I have personally done, and I am not a goverment official or anything like that. I just was invited by a friend, who graciously covered my expenses, and the country´s embassy gave me the visa. So, that we can not travel is a lie.
Second: Cuban navy stopping people fleeing the country, even killing them could be the funniest joke I have ever heard, if it was not so sad. That doesnt happen in Cuba. Please. People LEAVE the country to get better jobs, buy cars, and so. Nobody cares if they go or not. I invite you to come to Cuba, and I will personally ship you back so you can see the reality.
And about JFK: This country has improved A LOT during the the last 45 years, and for the better. You guys talk so freely about dictatorships, but first of all, we Cubans are happy here, at least the majority. We voted just like you did in elections. You suffered 8 years the George W. Bush dictatorship. The fact that you FINALLY came to your senses and elected somebody nice and smart as Obama, doesnt mean you are more or less democratic than us.
Posted by: Abel | April 08, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Cuba and all Cubans will have a significant change after people- to- people contacts have taken place. And there's no other place on earth where Americans will be better treated.
You don't need to take any weapons there, people are poor, but they haven't lost their smile, as we have. The skies are incredibly blue...and there are lots of old American GM cars on the streets...
Posted by: kash | April 08, 2009 at 09:33 AM
It is very sad to me that Americans accept a brutal and cruel dictatorship as an acceptable thing. That people commenting are so outraged by the violation of THEIR rights to not visit Cuba and ignore the fact that Cubans have no basic human rights proves that too many in this country have no ethics, morals or human decency. Add to this a lack of intelligence or knowledge when people like av2ts bring up Cuba's healthcare and education as examples of accomplishment.
It is apologists such as he that make those of us who KNOW what Cuba's healcare is like want to bang our heads against walls. It is people such as he that would support any tyrant without bothering to look into the claims that tyrant and his supporters make.
Let me tell you about Cuba's healthcare ... if an average Cuban goes to the hospital (his family has to take him since there are no ambulances) he must provide his own linens, bandages, food and medication. In very rare instances there is medicines but no hospital or clinic can be certain what they might have at any time, if anything. Same for pharmacies. The medications they do get are always expired meds from the tourist or party hospitals. Cubans who are not high up in the party must depend on family in other countries to send them meds. Otherwise they need dollars to buy at the tourist stores. The myth of Cuba's "free" healthcare is one of the most criminal lies forced upon the ignorant fools not just in the US but all over the world.
Please, people. Wake the Hell up. Cuba is NOT a paradise. It is a hell hole. The prisoners at Guantanamo Bay have it significantly better than the average Cuban. This is why Cubans try to break into the US base there. This is why they attempt a sea crossing even though the Cuban Navy has orders to shoot on sight.
And yet there are very useful idiots in this country that think US tourists will bring about some kind of epiphany. I guess Americans possess some magic that no other tourists have. Sorry Canada ... your tourists suck. Britain? No magic. Every other nation on the planet ... you are all losers. Only American tourists can save Cuba.
Seriously ... do you honestly believe this?
Posted by: Alisa | April 08, 2009 at 07:13 AM
In this economy, I wonder if Americans are willing to pay for the credit that Cuba's dictators are really interested in getting. They don't pay their creditors, so be ready to pay from your income taxes.
Posted by: Mari Amado | April 08, 2009 at 06:31 AM
After 50 years of failed forced policies that have not worked against Cuba, it's time to transform our actions. Let's invade Cuba with human to human contact. See you in Cuba in 2009. Luis Moro, Filmmaker - www.EveryThingCUBA.com
Posted by: Luis Moro | April 07, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Yes, let American tourists go to Cuba, but please allow them to bring rifle, machine guns, surface-to-air missiles, etc.
Posted by: Hugo chavez | April 07, 2009 at 11:21 PM
HeckSpawn, first off, my right to travel is non-negotiable. But for Cuba to be the only place I can not travel to is just absurd. This is a country that has such a shared history, that has not hurt one American, is so vibrant, interesting... and close. Our entire policy vs Cuba is a travesty for us and Cuban people, not to mention a worldwide embarrassment (Latin nations are making their voice clear on that).
Second, we have not right to to ask anyone else about their "fully democratic elections" when ours are so flawed and our hypocrisy is so apparent. The US has not cared much about elections in China or Saudi Arabia. We are allowed to travel to Iran, to North Korea for god sakes.
Third, Cuba actually does have internationally observed elections. They get almost twice the participation we do. The Cuban people actually nominate their representatives. The vast majority of Cubans then vote for the entire list of Government preferred candidates (yes, it's a secret ballot). Very few spoil ballots, despite calls from Miami to do so.
Cuba detains those trying to leave because the US obliges it to under the only accord we have with them (migration). Don't we want every country to control their borders? But no one is shot or even arrested for any significant period.
The "change" you are looking at would have Cuba drop its Revolution, its Constitution its principles. They are socialist and anti-Imperialist because their people believe in those things.
None of this is to say that Cuba does not have their own weaknesses and problems - with democracy and human rights. But we need to end our policy of blockades, subversion and regime change if we expect an opening. Cuba is very complicated. They are bad at many of the things do well, but they also have solved many of our most perplexing problems (crime, employment, health care, education, justice, fairness..)
Posted by: av2ts | April 07, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Why am I not surprised about what the majority think? The 65% or so that believe the embargo should be done away are very naive about the facts.
The reason that we have an embargo in the first place is not because of Castro turning Cuba into communism. The reason is because Castro decided to expropriate U.S. properties in Cuba without any recompensation. Even to this day, the Cuban government has not compensated the land it stole from U.S. citizens. In time, new items were implemented in the embargo to force Cuba out of communism.
Cuba continues to violate human rights there. It holds political prisoners in below-standard prison cells. It continues to deny basic freedoms to it's citizens. Keep the embargo, and the real truth of Cuba will be revealed!
Posted by: Jerome Melgar | April 07, 2009 at 09:15 PM
i just really hope that every thing will work out for the better and does not back fire on us but i think that it is good trying to settle things between us
Posted by: miss pooh | April 07, 2009 at 09:10 PM
I noticed that you did not identify the fact that 66.9% support ending travel restrictions, contrary to the perspective of your blog..
This is the same percentage found in national polls and among Cuban Americans in Miami. The travel ban is history.
Posted by: John McAuliff | April 07, 2009 at 08:39 PM
Cuba is the only country on the ENTIRE PLANET for which people from the United States need a permission slip from the federal government to go for a visit. It's OK to go to Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Iran, Sudan, China and Vietnam without asking Federal Government Permission.
Why are the people of the United States denied so simple a right as to visit our neighbor? Who are we to lecture them or anyone else about freedom when we're not free to do that?
Posted by: Walter Lippmann | April 07, 2009 at 07:47 PM
Hey, go ahead and let them hold some fully democratic elections first (ones observed by UN observers). Are the people there in Cuba free to come and go too?
Why do the patrol boats of the Cuban Navy still arrest (if not shoot in cold blood) people trying to flee Cuba???
I see no change there that President Kennedy would look at and say,"OK, that's better. Let's drop the embargo."
Posted by: HeckSpawn | April 07, 2009 at 06:11 PM