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Our Obama endorsement and your comments

October 20, 2008 |  6:28 am

UPDATE: This post was reformatted after its publication.

The outpouring of reader response to our endorsement of Barack Obama for president, released on our web site Friday morning and in our newspaper on Sunday, has been overwhelming and, for the most part, highly gratifying. By the time the Red Sox had given up the ghost Sunday evening, more than 1,100 readers had posted responses on the message board accompanying the editorial. Many more had written letters to the editor. Quite a few wrote to me directly. I’m told this flood represents a record -- or something close to it -- for reader response to a piece in The Times.

The strong majority of those who wrote, hundreds of readers, applauded our editorial, many for the result but many also offering their appreciation for our reasoning and our writing (as far as I can tell, only one reader found the piece poorly written. I guess you can’t please everyone). As someone accustomed mostly to hearing from people who are angry, I was happily surprised at the outpouring of appreciation for this editorial. To those readers who wrote to compliment us on our work, thank you.

At the same time, a relatively smaller number raised questions or objections that deserve answers. One theme, for instance, was that the editorial reflected a news bias toward Obama (predictably, some saw this as part of our Marxist enterprise. To you, I can only say that I've been at The Times for almost 20 years, and I've yet to bump into Fidel.). I understand why some people would doubt that we can be opinionated in one part of the paper and not in another, and I’m sure some won’t be reassured by anything I can say. Still, I want to emphasize this: All editorials in The Times, including endorsements, are the work solely of its editorial board. The members of that board are listed on our Opinion site here. I lead the board, and I report to the publisher, who oversees our work. No news reporter or editor saw this endorsement before it was written or was even told which candidate we would support. That’s the way we do business on all editorials; this was no exception.

To those readers, then, who object to endorsements because they compromise news coverage, let me just tell you that you're wrong. We endorse for the same reason we write other editorials -- we believe that civic discourse is healthy, and we enjoy participating in it. You don't have to agree, but there's no point in blaming -- or crediting -- our colleagues on the news side. They have nothing to do with our work.

A few readers amusingly suggested that the endorsement was dictated out of Chicago, where Tribune, the company that owns The Times, is based. For some, that suspicion was reinforced by the Chicago Tribune’s presidential endorsement, released a few hours after ours. Again, to be clear: No one from the management of the Tribune company participated in our endorsement in any way. In fact, earlier this year we took a position on a ballot measure where our chief officer, Sam Zell, had contributed money to one side. We took the opposing position. He was not consulted then or in this editorial or in any other piece we have written. Neither he nor any other Tribune executive has never contacted me or anyone on the board to urge a position or to complain about a position we have taken. I am happy to report that editorial policy for the Los Angeles Times editorial pages is developed and written in Los Angeles. I do not know who Sam Zell supports for president.

A couple readers complained that their replies were not posted. I can’t answer for all of those because different people monitored the message board at different times through the weekend, but I was at the helm of that process through the first wave on Friday, and I can tell you that yes, I did delete some responses. Some were profane. Some were racist. Some were threatening to me, the board or to readers who submitted comments. I did not delete any message because it criticized the editorial itself unless the same message was objectionable for those other reasons. I know some people will think that we select replies because they agree with us. All I can tell you is the opposite is true: We especially like to give space to opposing views. No comment was edited, and nothing was rejected because of the position it took on the editorial or the candidates.

Our determination to allow wide latitude on our message boards does produce some disquieting results. Many readers lobbed false charges – notably, the allegation that Obama is a Muslim – and a few were rough on each other. That’s a shame, but to be expected, I suppose, in a campaign that has become as testy as this one. Free speech can be ennobling or destructive, but we’re hardly ones to squelch it; instead, we enforce broad guidelines of decency and allow within them a lot of opportunity for nastiness.

I do hope that as readers continue to argue over this editorial, and over the issues and people in the campaign, they will reach for the ideal of disagreeing over ideas without pillorying opponents. Whatever one thinks of Barack Obama or John McCain, there are serious arguments on the other side. Those committed to politics at its best will listen rather than shout and will use our space to argue but not to wage vile or mean-spirited attacks. I hope you'll join us in that spirit.


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26.

Mr. Newton, it is a shame that a few vociferous right-wingnuts make it sound as if reasoned discourse is dead. Their inability to distinguish between information and opinion, whether conscious or not, is what's giving the press its bad name more so than the press' own inherent shortcomings, real or perceived. That the right-wingnuts appear to be on the losing end this election makes them all the more emboldened to shout perceived improprieties from the rooftops in the hopes of drowning out an ugly truth: their emperor has no clothes.

I would speculate that threats toward your livelihood or even your life have come mostly from the right. If true, therein lies proof that the soubriquette "right-wingnut" is not to be taken lightly. Sad, isn't it, that, when faced with the prospect of not getting their way, the'll go much further than just stamp their little feet. It makes me fear for Obama's life. Should he be elected, I hope that a security squad will be surrounding him 24/7 for the next 4-8 years.

27.

In a world of news increasingly infested with blogs (which in practice means any idiot with a computer), it is nice to see someone stand up for old-fashioned principles of journalistic ethics. Few bloggers have any conception of the separation of functions between the editorial board and the reporters, or the hands-off relationship between the financial and advertising departments and the editorial department.

Thank you for standing up for these principles in the face of hostility and ignorance. Long may they last. And to everyone else: never forget, bloggers aren't journalists.

28.

The media has been biased, it's true. In favor of McCain! Where are the stories about G. Gordon Liddy? What about the Nazi organization that McCain was a board member of? Why did the Keating re-hash use less than a day of the news cycle, when we've been over Rezko/Wright/Ayers two or three times, each lasting several weeks?

I'm sick of the McCain bias. Let's see some neutral reporting.

29.

I think the media should NOT be allowed to endorse ANY canidate.. It's Bias, Unfair and Unethical...
Medai outlets are supposed to report the NEWS.. Not push any agenda!!
BTW.. I'm a Democrat too..

30.

lts so shameful for Repubs not to accept reaility. l am sure the paper have done a good more ln the endorsement slnce l believe they have a democratlc rlght to vote who they love. Again Amerlcans must act wlth maturity, ls lt a SlN to be a Muslim in America?

31.

Wisdom is often questioned especially by those with narrow minds and views. Thank you for endorsing the best candidate to lead the United States in the 21st Century. As a person who votes the person not the party and who has voted both for democrats and republicans in the past I too have come to the conclusion that the best ticket for our future is Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

McCain has been erratic, his desire for office have clouded who he is and this is a real eye opener. His pick of Sarah Palin is a insult to the people of the US and especially to women it was pandering at its worst. Worst than that they have made American Muslims, Community Organizers and minorities feel like they are all less than Americans and this is race baiting and divisive.

We do not need a power hungry politician with bad judgement and a 19th or 20th Century view of the world to lead us at this time.

Thanks but no thanks to the McCain/Palin bridge to yesterday.

32.

volunteer writes, in part, "Good advocate - bad reporting".

Much to my personal annoyance our days of Walter Cronkite and truthful reporting are long gone. Walter was often cited as the most trusted man of America. Cronkite's retirement marked the end of the days of good factual reporting and marked the beginning of the days of spinning news simply to earn high audience ratings. Collectively, our American news media has sold out its dignity, at a cheap price, for popularity ratings.

Today and for years, I stopped subscribing to newspapers. Only value found in today's newspapers are as liners for bird cages and cat litter boxes.

Most of my research into news is now based on reading news reports from media outside America. I have found less bias in news reporting about American events through more objective eyes of foreign reporters.

I am quite annoyed by all this bias and spin doctoring being inflicted upon Americans by our American news media; there are no Walter Cronkite types today.

Today, I find there is literally only one trustworthy source of news, this is the Jim Lehrer News Hour on PBS television.

I have no use for spin doctor reporters of today's newspapers; we have no bird in a cage and our only cat makes good use of the great outdoors to bury the equal of today's mainstream American news reporting.

Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation

33.

Well at least the times is finally honest. Now its time for most every major media outlet to just flatly endorse Obama and announce they are not even trying to appear to have media impartiality in this election.

Your publication and the rest of "free press" should be embarressed of your shameless endorsement of democrats and bashing of republicans in what are supposed to be news sections. If you choose to do that in editorials that is your choice but you have violated any trust the public has in your institutions.

The history books will show the 2008 "free press" complete loss of impartiality and fairness as contributing to the downfall of the United States.

34.

McCain killed his campaign when he picked Pallin as his running mate. How anyone can vote for him is beyond my comprehension.

35.

I don't think anyone really expected your publication to endorse anyone but Obama

I have read you stories a couple of time and your bias does show

Good advocate - bad reporting

36.

Jim Newton, yours is certainly quite the entertaining bit of self-congratulatory ego masturbation much in keeping with Obama's own.

Okpulot Taha
Choctaw Nation

 


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