I thought Google's creed was "do no evil". Now they are supporting one of the greatest evils of our time. What gives?

How is gay marriage evil the greatest evil of our time?

Yes Google's creed is "do no evil" but how does that tie in with their now public lack of support for Cali's Proposition 8?

Our country was founded on the separation of Church and State, how dare you or anyone else bring religious views into the debate on Gay Marriage!

some people are just can't stand to see people happy.
and are bind, they can't see the real evil. two people in love is not wrong.
Google is not evil.

GO GOOGLE. (Born straight, refuse to hate)

WOOOOHOOOOOO I SUPPORT, GOOGLE SUPPORTS. If you don't support... you're way out voted. HAHA

The greatest evils of our time!? Seriously!? Talk about ignorance. Someone needs to take a break from thier copy of "Mein Kampf". To the intellegent people out there - aren't you just shocked that there are still people like "Pro Marrage" in America? Why are they so hateful though? Are they afraid of homosexuals or just jealous? Thanks for ruining our great country. Next on the docket will be to reinstate the Jim Crow laws, right?

You don't have to recognize it as evil to appreciate linguistic association in the definition of Marriage. The fact is that marriage has always been defined as between a man and a woman - why should that definition be taken away now just because a small populous is complaining? It's not discriminatory, its a definition. Give them the same rights, give them the same societal benefits, but don't give away a definition. Give them their own name. In the long run, I believe this means more anyway.

Hey Pro-Marriage,

You need more Xanax!

But since we are talking about evils, I wonder why you know what "truth" is and everyone else is blind to it. Go preach on the corner of a street and see who'll give you the time of day. Wacko!

To "What Gives": The separation of church and state was put into the foundations of the country so that religious leaders did not use their power for political gain or that political leaders do not use their power for religious gain. However, at no time was it supposed to prohibit using religious viewpoints for a debate.

remember Sodom and Gomorrah? ring any bells?

Quote: I thought Google's creed was "do no evil". Now they are supporting one of the greatest evils of our time. What gives?

My response: Wow! If Promarriage thinks that allowing two people that love each other to be the greatest evil of all time, then Promarriage probably would rather perpetuate hatred and bigotry which I suppose is less evil, right? Oh, and make blacks slaves again and remove women's rights to vote as well. Good luck stuffing awareness and equality back in the box! Cheers!

Marriage of any kind -- gay or straight -- goes against the "natural order of life". To adhere to the natural order of life (i.e. procreation to ensure the survival of the species) then we should be having sex with as many members of the opposite sex as possible....throw marriage out entirely. Humans are one of the only species that makes a commitment to a single mate for life. Marriage has nothing to do with the natural order of life. It has to do with love and a personal commitment between two people. It shouldn't matter whether those two people are a man and a women, a man and a man or a woman and a woman. There are more than enough hetero couples to ensure the survival of the species, so why should anyone care who decides to enter into the commitment of marriage?

To people who say to keep church and state separate, "marriage" is a "religious" term. Marriage was set up and ordained by God, in no way has the government or any other establishment has had anything to do with the founding of marriage. If to people of the same sex want to be together, fine go ahead. I believe that it is sin, but call it something since it is not marriage. Marriage as ordained by God is between a man and a woman.

Who's to say it's evil? That's for a higher power to decide, let them do what they want...

To MikeM who said: "To the intellegent people out there - aren't you just shocked that there are still people like "Pro Marrage" in America?"

You must be very ignorant to say something like this. Pro Marriage, as you said it, (marriage between a man and a woman) is how God himself organized man on earth. He didn't put Adam and Evan in the Garden of Eden.

To infer that 'intelligent' people are those who [aren't pro marriage] is to belittle God and call your ways greater than His. Also, considering that gay marriage destroys the family and punishes children of a good healthy and moral upcoming, it would seem that pro marriage (between a man and a woman) is the only intelligent choice for our nation.

Secondly, you spelled intelligent wrong. Well done.

I have nothing against homosexuality...but marriage by definition is a 'religious ritual' (sorry for the bad wording here). So homosexuals can live together but talking about marriage for them is backwards. We do need laws to recognize them socially on the same ground as married people though. We have this kind of thing in France :

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacte_civil_de_solidarité

and here is the english version :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacte_civil_de_solidarité

Points made by RobX, Jim, and Richard are spot on and easily proven. Comments from individuals like Aperson, Someone, benn, and Bill are unsubstantiated hate-filled rhetoric. All these super-religious, homophobic people really need to consider getting an education before running their mouthes. Ignorance, not homosexuality, is the greatest problem for humanity. Always has been that way. It is only a matter of short time before these predjudice folks go down looking like the KKK and Nazis of the past. Do you really want that stigma? Hating people will not help your children. Hating people will not curtail your fears. Hating people will not get you into "heaven". You really need to open your eyes! Everyone not sick over your hate is just laughing at you!

Just because you read about Sodom and Gomorrah in the bible doesn't mean it exists, either. Nor did talking snakes, prophets with magic powers or, as someone noted, a man living inside a whale. And Genesis got the order of the creation of the universe wrong.

The bible is great allegory. It is not fact. Fundamentalists tend to pick out the sections of the bible they agree with and ignore the rest. Fine, but marriage is also a legal institution, with or without a religious ceremony. Practice your own beliefs, but do not force me to live by them.

That's what "separation of Church and State" means. And BTW, there's ample evidence that Thomas Jefferson was not religious. ""Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."

Okay, let us ASSUME, for the sake of argument, that the founding fathers and this country now are founded upon Christian religious ideals. Who decides which denomination has the final say? Fundamentalists, Contextualists, Catholics, Lutherans, Methodists, Non-Denominationals, Mormons, Evangelicals? What if (and there are many) a denomination that labels themselves Christian wishes to bless a marriage between a man and a man or woman and woman based on their creed? Is it then acceptable for one denomination or group of denominations to impose their will upon that other Christian sect or arbitrarily label them "non-Christian" for their refusal to follow the former sect's beliefs? Wouldn't that be called religious discrimination in the very sense that your interpretation of the separation of Church and State defines it?

Marriage in secular and civil law revolves around custody, taxes, and other such processes. It leaves the ability to bless or not bless a marriage in the religious domain up to the religion of the married couples' choice. Either all marriages should be called civil unions under civil law (and then called marriages or otherwise under religious banners) or all civil unions called Marriages (and then called marriages or otherwise under religious banners). Any other view is logically deficient given the parameters and assumptions that YOU (several of you) stated yourselves.

Please Respond :).

Its funny how when you believe in pro marriage that people compare us to the KKK and say that we are full of hate-filled rhetoric, are ignorant, and uneducated. (MikeM)

Who ever said anything about hate.

I don't hate those who are gay. I love them like I love anyone. I know a lot of people who are gay and I treat them just like I do anyone else. I just don't believe in the so-called 'marriage' of gay people. Marriage historically has been only between a man and a woman and it is how God organized man. If gay people want to live together, that's their choice, but from a moral and religious perspective, it isn't right and therefore shouldn't be [validated] legally by our country though marriage.

On the other hand, Mr. MikeM, I could say the same about you. Your "hate-filled rhetoric" and points against those who are pro marriage is "ignorant", and "uneducated." How about telling us why you think that gay marriage should be allowed, and why you think it doesn't hurt children, (even though I have seen and studied case studies that prove the opposite) instead of just lashing out against those who are pro marriage and giving them profane titles.

To Richard: You are right. The bible is a great allegory, but that doesn't mean it isn't fact. Just because you don't believe the stories to be fact, doesn't mean that they aren't. Just because you don't believe that Sodom and Gomorrah happened, doesn't mean that it didn't.

Also, there is plenty of 'ample evidence' that our forefathers were religious.

MikeM said: "All these super-religious, homophobic people really need to consider getting an education before running their mouthes."

Educated people debate things by talking rationally, non-emotionally, and by actually stating facts and beliefs. Your responses seem to be full of emotional rationalization and you keep calling names. Name calling is not educated. Didn't your mother ever teach you that?

There is a difference between hating those who are gay, and not believing in their 'marriage.'

Those from most Christian backings don't hate gays; they just don't believe in the legal bonding of them. There is a difference.

Everywhere you look nowadays, it doesn't have to even be Google, but someone in Government, a corporate CEO or some brainiac is coming out the woodworks saying "I'm a fruit cup" and I'm McLovin it....lol

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I really don't understand why do we even bother to argue with religious people. The discussions always go the same way: You state a series of arguments that then is "countered" by a bunch of statements based on pure faith or personal belief.

First of all, to all those people saying this is the way god intended it, please, seriously? Did god come down and talk to you personally? do you have any proof of it?. The truth is, you have as much proof that god exists as I have that he doesn't, which is basically nothing. So don't use god to argue about something that involves all of our society, which is made of many different kinds of people, people that believe in god, people that believe in god in a different way, people that believe in other god or gods, and people that don't believe in god at all.

This fight is not about a word, is not about gay people wanting to be able to say they are "married", is about them getting the same rights that all heterosexual couples take for granted. So, when you say, "I have gay friends and I like them all but I don't want them to get married" consider once more what you are saying. If you want to call it something else, because you think that the word marriage belongs to the church, then so be it, but make that point clear, but once again, this is not about a word, is about all the legal implications this word has in our society.

None of us have the absolute truth, so all we have left is doing the best we can to be as fair as possible to everybody in this country. People should not have to have a harder life because you do not agree with their choices, specially if the source of your disagreement is something so flaky as religious belief.

Totally, I completely agree with Bill and the other zealots. I mean, really, something like 90% of all gay parents beat thier kids, and even worse, they make them choose homosexuality as a way of life. After we keep gays from marrige, then we can ban them from getting jobs, and then we can put out a blanket law that keeps all suspected homosexuals from registering to vote or owning property, then we can kill...oh wait, that last part MIGHT be wrong. Well, we'll just find some obsure passage in the bible that will help us justify our terrible behavior. Hitler did it, terrorists do it, why cant homophobes!? Yeah, that sounds really enlightented.

Someday you poor soles will see the error of your ways. And then you may actually feel sad about being lumped together with racists, biggots, and all the other ignorant groups in history. Until then just keep preechin' your garbage to get...whatever it is you want.

Also, can the zealots actually cite all of the "studies" they are quoting. Let me guess, they are in the prestigous journal: Accounts of Christian "Research"? Probably along side studies "proving" intelligent design and creationism!