This Hillary Democrat won't vote for Palin
Janice Hahn was still hurting early in the Democratic convention week over the fact that her candidate, Hillary Clinton, did not get the presidential nomination and won't be on the ticket. "I think this may have been the last chance in my lifetime to elect a woman president," said the Los Angeles councilwoman.
But that doesn't mean this ardent Democrat will consider a vote for John McCain, now that he has chosen Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running-mate.
"I think when all is said and done it was always about more than having a woman in the White House," Hahn said by phone shortly after 11 a.m. Denver time, as her plane home was about to begin taxiing. "John McCain's priorities are just not in line with most women's. The stakes are just too high. Hillary said it in her speech. 'Were you in it just for me?'"
Hahn may be typical of most women Democrats in Denver over the last week. She is the first woman elected to office from a family of staunch Democratic men (all of whom served, however, mostly in nonpartisan office): Her late father Kenneth Hahn, the legendary county supervisor; her uncle Gordon Hahn, a state assemblyman and councilman; and her brother Jim Hahn, Los Angeles mayor, city attorney and controller.
McCain can be assumed to be trying to reach Hillary Clinton supporters who are rooted less deeply in Democratic politics than the Hahns.
2005 photo of Janice Hahn by the Times' Al Seib
I cannot believe the rationale bloggers are using to justify voting for Obama.
Get this NOBAMA/GOMAMA
Sara is the answer to all our problems. Check the records. The Democrates are responsible for this economic mess. The Republicans tried to warn the Congress and the Senate, however, the dumb Democrats stopped the solution before it ever got to the floor for a vote.
See where the Democratic controlled House and Senate got us???
Take a look at Obama's record and his accomplishments. That should open your eyes when you go to pull the lever.
Posted by: G. Boyd | October 10, 2008 at 02:03 PM
Obama may make attractive promises but he cannot deliver on any of them. America will fall into the wrong hands if God borbid, he should win via voter fraud. It won't matter about the economy, the war in Iraq, or national security. We will have nothing but trouble like we have never before seen should Obama win.
I'm so thankful we Americans who are thinking this election through, have a decent choice with the McCain and Palin ticket.
Posted by: G. Boyd | October 10, 2008 at 01:54 PM
I am so afraid that the American people are so blinded by Barack oboma. Why are our troops fighting? Who are they fighting for? Have we so soon forgotten 9/11. This man no matter what people say is Muslim the same people who blew up the twin towers thousands of innocent people were killed that day. The name alone barack obama is not american. His wife doesn't like the white people. You may say well we have to keep the separation of church and state what about friend and enemy? If you just listen to the man or for one minute look at him you can clearly see he is not for us. If he can't pledge to our flag etc.etc. then we definetly do not want him running this great land that our fore fathers fought for. I know they would be turn ing in their graves if they could see how perverse this world has becoime. I am a conservative republican I wasn't sure what to think about a female vp. But as I have learned more about her and her values and her very down to earth personality, but most of all her eagerness to make change I do believe she is the right person for the job. People we can't forget who we are and what we stand for. We can't be so fooled to let a man who represents the muslims and trust me if we allow him to be president your gonna change but I don't think it's the change you were looking for. For all we know he could be in with Bin Laden so they can really terrorize us. Open you eyes and see open your ears and hear.
Posted by: joy salinas | October 03, 2008 at 08:01 AM
I'm all for choice, hoever, pro choice woman use their right t have an abortion as birth control. They have no compassion for humae lives - hOw can any compassionate female murder an innocent baby.
My moto- Live, and let live......
Posted by: Joblow | September 15, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Sarah Palin is so in touch with middle America. She has had the trials and the joys ,the same as the every day people in this country. She understands how people hurt when they lose their jobs and how people feel when they see their children make bad decisons. She is a woman that has it all, Brains -beauty- a family that supports one another, no matter what!!! This just aggravates the far left, men and women (some) because Sarah Palin makes them ashamed and jealous, that they cannot do all she can do.. As far as the liberal hollywood are concerned, The washed up old hags -like -Barabra Walters, the Lohans and the Pam Anderson typs -they are a joke, They could never do what Sarh Palin dose, they have all they can do to snort their cocain, or put their wrinkle cream on. Their vain and double mined dreamers, who care nothing for the sorrows of others.
I'm sick of career politicians that go to washington and sit on their fat asses and do nothing, They all have all they need and they do not care about the average people suffering. The career politicians hate woman and hate decent people , their just in it for the money and the glory..
Hillary was treated like garbage, by Obama and her party. but she has to suck up to them now so that she can run again later.
I used to be demacrate but they have become so cold and self absorbed, most of them not all, will lie -cheat and steel to get what they want.
I love having a real woman, who is taking care of her family and who can work in a high end job, run for office. We need to get rid of all the phony career politicians that are out of touch with Americans, and embrace new blood, (male or female) people who realy give a damn about their country first..
Posted by: Joblow | September 15, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Palin:
She has next to no experience in government. When ask about national security back ground or knowledge regarding foreign affairs the best Ms. McCain could come up with was “she lives right by Russia.”
She has only traveled outside the country twice in her life.
She was associated with to a 3rd party which among other things supports allowing Alaska to secede from the United States and feels the only thing wrong with the John Birch Society was it was to liberal! Her husband “First Dude” was registered as a member of this party between 1994 and 2004!
She tried to have a local Librarian fired for not banning books. She used her political office to try to have fired and smear a state trooper who is in a custody battle with her sister. She fired the guy who stood his ground and would not fire the trooper. She is being investigated for this and is worried enough about the outcome to have recently “lawyered up.”
Palin currently has pretty messy family issues. She recently gave birth to a son with Downs Syndrome and has a 17 year old daughter who is pregnant. Ironically she has fought sex education in the schools and availability of contraception for minors. I am glad she was able to make the choice to carry her disabled son to term…we all need the right to make our own choices!!!
She believes that for 9 months a woman has no right to control what is happening to her own body and is basically nothing more than a baby container. She does not believe in a women’s right to choose to end a pregnancy, even if she has been raped.
She tried to force her under age daughter into a marriage of political convenience, but her daughter would have none of it. Her oldest son may have joined the military to keep from going to jail. He and his 3 friends apparently caused $10,000 damage to a fleet of school busses. Track ( Palin’s son) was 16 at the time and was likely the one who provided he alcohol consumed by himself and the other 3 youths involved. There are multiple pictures showing both of her teenage (under age) children drink alcohol.
She has allowed her pregnant daughter, Bristol and her daughter’s boyfriend, Levi, to drop out of their Senior year of high school. They are on the campaign train with her as her own pro-life poster children. She reminds me of Lynn Spears (you know Britney and Jamie Lynn’s mother) as she seems to see nothing wrong with exploiting your children for your own fame and gain.
It has been reported she had an affair with her husbands business partner. Wow, if this is an example of “family values” I am very confused.
She does not believe human pollution has anything to do with global warming (even Bush has had to back down on this one). Is so in bed with big oil she is willing to watch as the polar bear and beluga whales become extinct, rather than slow the possibility of drilling. She would open up one of the last great wilderness on earth to exploitation by oil interests.
She laughed when hearing a fellow Republican woman being called a bitch in public (she and the woman had disagreed on several issues) I guess this does make her on par with McCain who thinks it is alright to call your wife a cunt in public.
She has been repeatedly described as stubborn with a vicious streak – even by family and friends. (nick name Sarah Barracuda)
Has an undergraduate degree in Journalism for a small obscure university. It took her six years and at least 5 different colleges to manage to get this undergraduate degree. Most people who have been in school that long have a Masters at least. If she were any kind of a student she could have been within 2 years of having her doctorate.
She did fund raising for Sen. Ted Stevens (think major Alaskan corruption) and accepted money from the same sources as Sen. Ted Stevens. She pushed for the “bridge to no where – the flipped when convenient to do so. In spite of what she has said she fought for earmarks for her home town and state…some of the same one condemned by McCain. She left the town she was major of in debt. Think pushing huge costly money pit sports complex at the expense of roads and sewer systems.
She has been named Sen. John McCain’s VP selection for the Republican ticket. Sen. McCain is 72 years old and has reoccurring cancer as part of his health history. One can not help but question Mr. McCain’s judgment regarding her selection. John McCain has made a calculated political choice in selecting his VP, that has unfortunately put an undereducated, inexperienced right wing nut case a “heart beat” away from becoming President at a time when our Nation faces some of the most complex and volatile issues it has in decades.
I am a Christian and a pastors wife…I was not completely decided on my vote until I really started to look into what this woman has done and what she stands for…she does not have my vote!
Posted by: Rebecca Burt | September 10, 2008 at 05:45 PM
To assume that anyone who is pro-choice is also pro-abortion is presumptive and ignorant. I support a woman's choice. That does not mean that I would abort a down's syndrome child if I had known ahead of time. My husband and I decided against genetic testing because we didn't want to know as it would not change our decision to have our high risk child. He is fine, many of those tests are false positives anyway. However, i do not feel that a young girl or woman, who has been raped, should be further punished by having to carry a child for nine months and then give birth. Isn't her life already ruined enough? How much should she have to be punished?????
Posted by: ereinicke | September 09, 2008 at 07:33 PM
I actually like Palin. She is an attractive, articulate, feisty mom and Alaskan Governor who, I think, really wants the world to be a better place... as most Americans do.
HOWEVER: Is she intelligent... intelligent enough to run the United States of America in the case McCain passes away from illness/poor health while in the White house? I don't know. My question arises out of the fact she ACCEPTED a position which I feel panders to politically active women.
I thought conservative, Republican women were staunchly against the idea of WOMEN BEING EXPLOITED (especially in cases of prostitution)! If I were an intelligent woman, I would have seen that coming a mile away. But we have to remember here, folks: SHE IS A POLITICIAN first and foremost! Her sex just happens to be a "Joker in the shuffle."
No matter the outcome of the vote, I'm anxious to see just how irrational, illogical, and down-right mean and nasty each party is going to get. It's during these times that make me either stand up and cheer for the USofA or cringe out of disappointment... which these days is mostly the latter.
Democrats and Republics... stick with the issues and let us know how you are going to actually make changes.
Right now I'm leaning Democrat.
Posted by: JR Keith | September 08, 2008 at 10:03 AM
The Republicans had a number of reputable, qualified women from which to choose a vice presidential candidate (not that any would have induced me to overlook their choice of McCain in the first place). Instead, they offered up a woman with a checkered academic journey and few solid professional accomplishments. Now she must be sequestered for a few weeks to be tutored by a team of advisors before she can face the sort of routine interviewing both Biden and Obama have mastered. So much for being prepared to lead "on Day 1."
I vote to elect leaders who are smarter, better-educated, and more qualified than I, especially those who are running for president and vice-president. Sarah Palin seems a far cry from that. Hilary Clinton makes me proud of women's accomplishments; Sarah Palin makes me cringe.
Posted by: Jean Staffa | September 08, 2008 at 08:38 AM
This whole PRO-LIFE issue will keep about as many woman from voting for Palin as black PRO-LIFE priests from voting for Obama. McCain and Palin will NOT seek to criminalize abortions. Merely, take a strong stance on reducing them, just as Obama will be doing.
Posted by: bfreeman | September 07, 2008 at 06:01 PM
Does John McCain think women voters are fools? He didn't pick one of the seasoned women of his party, possibly because they would make him look like an old fool. Instead he goes with the beauty queen, soccer mom, blah,blah blah, to appeal to the lightheaded. It's so laughable to hear the Republicans say Sarah Palin has foreign policy experience because, "she lives right next to Russia", duh.. Heaven help us if these people believe half of their rhetoric. Come on, haven't we experienced enough incompentence in the past eight years. America needs the smartest person in the class to be our leader (Obama), not the guy who nearly last!
Posted by: Rita | September 06, 2008 at 01:21 PM
I can't believe politics have fallen to where we vote for a chromosome, looks, pluck, PTA experience, or whatever. What happened to the thought that the President/ VP would make major decisions to make the world (not a local PTA or town) a better, safer place to live. A duo who would make life OK for everyone, not just big companies and Oil merchants, or whomever is the "flavor of the day" in Washington. Lobbyists is a new career field; what happened to make this so? Have I been asleep all of these years, and am now losing "my" USA?? I am so sad at how fickle and superficial, and yes, celebrity-struck, voters have become. Just because Hillary, a woman, didn't make it, doesn't mean we slip in another woman. What if JFK would have failed to be nominated because he was Roman Catholic? Would those who wanted a RC in office vote for just any Roman Catholic, regardless of his/her qualifications? How many people hated Hillary because she was so "out there". People shot her 'back into her place" for awhile.; now they are proclaiming the qualities of another bold, outspoken woman, Pilam. What is the difference??? Wake up America!!! Vote with your head not your emotions.
Posted by: barbara | September 06, 2008 at 08:20 AM
Hey Diana and all you other Palin lovers:
She is the biggest dope - and your husbands are dancing around the house in joy because they have someone new to fantasize about in the shower. She is just a simpleton and does not represent women AT ALL
Mccain Palin are just going to drill Alaska (which is why he using her) and more years of War, with Mccain.
He is born to make war. The whole country is going to become ruins if they win. Can you imagine hotheaded McCain and Palin dealing with Foreign delegates? Mccain is gonna blow someone up! Wake up ladies. Don not fall for the Pleasantville Image they are portraying. By The Way - What the heck is Cindy Wearing??? She is beyond TACKY and thinks she is a 22 year old model.
Posted by: Palin is a TOOL | September 05, 2008 at 08:41 PM
I hope know one forgets who McCain has on his staff - like Karl Rove - I see Bush, Cheney and Rove when I hear him talk -
Also lets not give up pro-choice - that us women are not ruled by a government - I do not support abortion but I do strongly support the right of a woman to make that choice.
Lets not go back into medieval times
Posted by: Dot | September 05, 2008 at 06:14 PM
McCain lost any hope of me voting for him when he chose Palin whos biggest claim to fame is running a state with the population of the suberb I live in. Most importantly, Palin in no way could gain my respect for the shear fact she chose to leave her newborn special needs child and 17yr old pregnant daughter for a career in the white house. Mom first career second.. She broke the cardinal rule.. thumbs down on Palin by a lot of woman I am afraid. Not to mention the only reason McCain took her was because he chose to insult all woman by thinking his choice by gender alone would gain woman votes. He must think we are all just stupid.
Posted by: Colleen | September 05, 2008 at 05:06 PM
John McCain's choice of VP was a brilliant move. McCain did not choose Sarah Palin for her looks, he choose her because she is tough, smart, and grounded firmly in traditional American and Judeo-Christian family values. And she is a wildly popular Governor in Alaska. McCain also knows that by choosing Palin, he will effectively sideline the Hilary voters, who are still seething at O. Hussain Obama's decision to snub the former First Lady as his running mate.
Hilary is pro abortion, pro radical homosexual and anti-NRA. Palin is pro-traditional family values, pro-life, pro-gun and advocates small government, less taxes and less government interference in our lives. Governor Palin is diametrically opposed to everything that Hilary and her supporters stand for. Yet, will they vote for Obama? I rather doubt it, no matter how much they hate George W. Bush.
McCain is not trying to "fool" women voters and some of you here think. He is effectively sidelining female Democratic voters, thus robbing Obama of millions of crucial votes, while ensuring his ticket to the White House. Judging by the success of the Republican convention, Obama and Biden will be returning to the Senate.
Posted by: William J. Gibbonc | September 05, 2008 at 11:53 AM
We need to get to know Sara Palin.
She was for the bridge to nowhere and promoted it.
She took a small town of 5500 that had no deficit and left it with a 22 million dollar deficit.
She tried to get the town librarian fired if she would not let Sara remove the books she did not approve of.
She appointed a friend to public office that was accused of sexual harrassment.
She was under pressure from the citizens to be removed from mayor, but the party got her to hire a city manager to run the city.
She aligned herself with a big time lobbyist who got her in with Sen Ted Stevens and made trips to washington to lobby for earmark and pork money for the city and continued as governor of Alaska.
Alaska under her is the top spender per capita of PORK money in the United States.
She is against a woman getting an abortion even if she has been raped or subjected to incest. Think of your teenage daughter or if you are a hockey mom and get raped and pregnant, do you want to live with that?
She joined the PTA when she had her first born and was only in it a short time after that.
She uses the power of her office to get personal results.
She does not like to accept other peoples ideas and if you go against her you are an enemy for life.
She lowered the town property tax, but then put in a sales tax on everything including food that helped those who pay tax and own property, but put a hardship on those who cannot afford it.
She has instituted policies that have greatly favored big oil and enerby companies.
This is not a person who tells the truth, and does not have the personality to be in one of the highest offices in the land. If you want to verify most of this just google the alaska newspaper and Palin. It is all there. The republicans did not do their homework
She sounds like Cheney "with lipstick" when you get to know the real Sara Palin.
Posted by: JP in Florida | September 05, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Someone wrote : No commparison between Hill and Pailn. I beg to differ. Two very strong women who want to make history. The only difference is John McCain picked Palin, where as Obama gave Hill the finger, more or less. Looks like " Mr. Change" himself really wants more of the same ole crude from Washington in Biden and McCain is the "Maverick" Wake up and smell the sexism in the air .
Posted by: SOMEBODY | September 04, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Hey American women listen up.........the glass ceiling has broken. This is the proudest moment in Amercian history for women whether you are a D or an R. I was going to vote Hillary but now there is a new political icon in the making, Sarah Palin. She represents women from every class, she is not rich and is tough as nails. A leader on the basketball court to a state championship to 80% of popular vote in Alaska, taking on an incumbent of her own party............now that is somebody I want to help lead our country. A vote for Barack Obama is a vote for Oprah Winfrey and the liberal media..........besides Obama is from the Illinois democratic machine and ask anyone who lives in Illinois about our corrupt politics and Rod Blagoevich our Governor.........he has screwed up our state beyond repair and wasn't even asked to speak at the convention...........also why hasn't Reverand Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton been active in promoting the messiah?
Posted by: gina fuhrmann | September 04, 2008 at 06:35 AM
Hey American women listen up.........the glass ceiling has broken. This is the proudest moment in Amercian history for women whether you are a D or an R. I was going to vote Hillary but now there is a new political icon in the making, Sarah Palin. She represents women from every class, she is not rich and is tough as nails. A leader on the basketball court to a state championship to 80% of popular vote in Alaska, taking on an incumbent of her own party............now that is somebody I want to help lead our country. A vote for Barack Obama is a vote for Oprah Winfrey and the liberal media..........besides Obama is from the Illinois democratic machine and ask anyone who lives in Illinois about our corrupt politics and Rod Blagoevich our Governor.........he has screwed up our state beyond repair and wasn't even asked to speak at the convention...........also why hasn't Reverand Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton been active in promoting the messiah?
Posted by: gina fuhrmann | September 04, 2008 at 06:29 AM
I don't know about anyone on here, But I want to vote for someone who believes in human Rights who puts behind ideoligistic programmed behavior and really follows through. So how does any of these canindates add up in the long run, They DON'T they're just like you and I and I don't know about you but I am always changing and my views will change with the times as more people become aware of The responsibility to care for one and other. Yes I will vote for Barack not because he is a black male or because he is the voice of a new generation, but because I think washington needs to be shaken by the pant legs and get rid of OLD robotic thinking and usher in a new way and with new ideals come new ways of thinking we need leaders not wars or Old world thinking, how are we as Americans and America going to move with the rest of the world when we still have fundamentalist people holding us back to the years of the pilgrims while countries all around the world Improve with technologies, lifestyles and rights. I do think Palin is a Strong and Courages woman, John Mc Cain(Elmer Fud) does have expirence, but he seem to relate everything to his military days and that flat out scares me! his age has nothing to do with his abilities to perform, I just think he is set in his ways!..I mean the man has never used a computer and were supposed to elect him when doesn't even use Email? I say to anyone just do what you feel in your heart is the right thing, It is not about Dems or Reps its about AMERICA and our FUTURE
Posted by: DonnyDVoter | September 03, 2008 at 05:42 PM
THIS HILLARY SUPPORTER WILL VOTE FOR PALIN.
ANY WOMAN WHO DOESN'T STAND IN SORORITY WITH PALIN NOW IS A TRAITOR TO ALL WOMEN.
Posted by: Indievoter | September 03, 2008 at 09:19 AM
I could care less that Palin is a female. She is also very conservative, less educated than most females I know and has far less political experience than many other females in politics. I actually considered voting for McCain prior to his VP choice, but no more!
Posted by: Emily | September 03, 2008 at 09:03 AM
Lemme get this straight...
You're saying; the same women that swallowed the Kerry/Edwards, Obama/Biden, Bill/Hillary dog and pony shows are too savvy to 'fall' for an authentic strong American Woman like Sarah Palin?
That's rich!
Posted by: Mega Mensa | September 01, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Based on what I've heard. I like here. Not since Ross Perot has there been an opportunity for an outsider to come in. Here's hoping she weather the storm!
Posted by: Elaine | August 31, 2008 at 05:18 PM