Aging U.S. will miss Mexican Immigrants
The Mexican Consul General of Phoenix says that Mexican workers are leaving the U.S. in response to heightened immigration enforcement (stepped up raids and tough laws at the municipal level) but that in coming decades, the U.S. will be sorry it pushed out these young, able-bodied workers.
Speaking to the Thunderbird School of Global Management in Arizona, Carlos Flores Vizcarra said demographic estimates show that within 30 years, nearly 77 million Americans will retire: "So the question is, who will take the place of those folks who are retiring?" he asked. Mexico is also facing a shortage of labor in coming decades, Flores added, and the U.S. will not find it easy to lure these workers back.
While everyone knows that low wages in Mexico are partially responsible for the numbers of Mexicans leaving the country seeking work elsewhere, the population explosion south of the border also has been a factor, he said. During World War II, Mexico had 18 million citizens; today, 20 million foreign-born residents of Mexican descent live in the U.S. --that's more than the entire population of the country in the 1940s. And Mexico's population has quintupled, to about 107 million people.
"It's like a revolution that no country could have digested," Flores said. "What has been our safety valve? The U.S."
But Mexicans seeking a better climate for immigrants aren't just going back to Mexico, Vizcarra said. They're heading north to Canada.
"Canada is pressing on Mexico so that Mexico can provide more labor to Canda," he said. "From this moment, Mexico is looking to the Canadian horizon, maybe with more interest than to the U.S., basicaly because of the sluggish economy here in America, and also becuase Canada is discovering new economic frontiers in Manitoba and Alberta."






There are plenty of foreign workers waiting in line for a chance to come here to work legally. I don't believe we will have a shortage any time soon.
Legal immigrants are usually educated, vaccinated, insured, and can learn to speak English. They also get better paying jobs and pay more in taxes than illegal Mexican Nationals.
Posted by: Texan123 | August 08, 2008 at 01:54 PM
"It's like a revolution that no country could have digested," Flores said. "What has been our safety valve? The U.S."
So this Mexican official admits to what we have always known, the United States has been a safety valve to the Mexican nation. I feel so sorry for these displaced people, how disgusting their government is BUT we cannot throw the baby out with the bath water. If these Mexican national, here illegally, want to live in my country, then show a new allegiance and learn English and assimilate. You'll be my American brother!
Posted by: alexandros | August 08, 2008 at 01:58 PM
Almost half of all legal immigrants come from Mexico! I think America has done it's part to feed the Mexico poor, It's time for Mexico to step up for their own and quit crying about what is Mexico's own responsibility. If Mexicans leave and don't come back there are millions of poorer people who speak English all over the world to replace them.
Posted by: yeahman | August 08, 2008 at 02:31 PM
Typical Mexican false logic with threatening overtones blaming Americans. How can Mexico "be facing a labor shortage" when their population has quintupled to about 107 million people?
Their "safety valve" should be the development of their country and successful employment of their own people. That takes honesty and social committment to their Mexican citizens. Until that happens, they will remain an unequal third world country.
Posted by: cagran | August 08, 2008 at 02:52 PM
At first I thought this post was a joke or a parody. But these days you never know. I hope it was a joke.
Posted by: chris | August 08, 2008 at 05:20 PM
As Workers? What about as a fighting force. The Mexicans also make great warriors and peacemakers. Ask their fellow prison guards, their fellow officers, their fellow troops. I am beginning to think (being in AZ), that the Mexicans make the best Americans. Even when I lived in Baltimore, it was only the Mexicans who stood up to the Bloods, we hid our faces. They are proud people.
Posted by: NiceJewishBoy | August 08, 2008 at 06:23 PM
Mr. Vizcarra:
Mexico has done everything it can to create
al Mexican Nation within our borders through
illegal immigration! Legal immigrants are welcome
to become U.S. citizens and hold their loyalty
to the USA but we all know now that you think
you can game and abuse the 14th amendment,
collaborate with criminal employers and cry a
river of crocodile tears that we need your
uneducated workers so that Mexico( a failed country)
can have a safety valve. The real heroes are the
mestizos marching in Chiapas not the illegals
waving Mexican flags in L.A., Chicago and Phoenix!
Posted by: OneifbyLand | August 08, 2008 at 07:23 PM
the only real thing that really bothers me is that all of you are right!!!!! but what have you done to change all this........ you all blame mexicans for the good or bad things that happen in your lives!!!!! like if mexicans were a piece of @^$@% well im so sorry to tell you that these people are humans just like you!!!!! just look at your family background were they born here or they came from some place else..ireland, germany, jamiaca, italia, portugal, france,poland, maybe Africa god only knows were your family background is!!!! but one thing is for sure YOU ARE NOT FROM HERE!!!! ARE YOU???? HUH...
Posted by: none1421 | August 09, 2008 at 12:12 AM
The United States will always attract immigrants because it offers more opportunities for personal success with it's system of free enterprise than any other country. This may not be the case in the future as left wing politics gradually erodes the system that made America great. We need legal immigration and assimilation with educated people making up the bulk to make up for the failure to ecucate our own.
Posted by: Ralph Woods | August 09, 2008 at 05:17 AM
More pretzel logic from a corrupt narco oligarchy government official. Proof the Mexican people will never improve their country as long as they blaim Gabachos for their problems. Mexico is a failed state. The only thing they can offer their people is the right to leave. What does that say about them? It's obviously true as we have 20% of the country living in the US. Get ready for 100 million more when either Mc Amnesty or Borat gets elected. I need a new country.
Posted by: Jimi | August 09, 2008 at 09:53 AM
I just hope they continue to leave but I doubt it.
There was a calling for Self-Deportation recently.
BUT NOT ONE OF THESE CRIMINALS LEFT ON
HIS/HER OWN.
SAD.
Posted by: Mimmie | August 09, 2008 at 10:03 AM
We in the United States do not exist to be Mexico's "safety valve". Hopefully, there will be a revolution in Mexico and bureaucratic buffoons like Carlos Flores Vizcarra will finally be deposed. Note to the Mexican Government: It's now the 21st century. You'll never be regarded as a first rate government until you actually perform like one. Presently, you'd have to improve to be considered second rate.
Posted by: US Citizen | August 09, 2008 at 10:44 AM
This entire article is about the mess Mexico has made out of their country and how terrible the US is for not wanting that mess up here. Is this guy for real? Fix your own mess! At least they seem to understand that we don't want them anymore and are looking towards Canada. Good luck, Canada.
Posted by: jkay | August 09, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Good riddance! To bad for Canada!
Hurry up and get the hell out!
Posted by: Janice Gammill | August 09, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Miss illegall aliens?? I live and grew up in Southern California. It had very little crime at one time. Very little. The Mayor of Los Angeles, Villaraigossa, said that there is now less crime than in the fifties of the last century. You see, he is a Mexican reconquista ex gang member clown. He knows he is lying and he is in fact a practiced lier. But it goes deeper than that. He as well as politicians like Gloria Molina, L.A. County Suprervisor, and other well -known Mexican malcontent politicians who were educated free and are now biting the hand that fed and feeds them, like to say things like crime is now lower. They think it pulls the strings of those who grew up here. No it doens't. But it does demonstrate what vile, ungratefull, Mexican nationalist at heart, TRAITORS, so many of them are.
Again, back to the story. MISS ILLEGAL ALIEN MEXICANS? LIKE A HOLE IN THE HEAD. LIKE MISSING CRIME, BAD LANGUAGE, AND GRAFFITTI. THE TRUTH IS , MOST LONG TIME CALIFORNIANS AND AMERICANS IN GENERAL, WON'T MISS THEM-----AT ALL. THERE MIGHT BE A CELEBRATION WITH PINATAS AND BEER IF THEY LEFT, HOWEVER.
Posted by: Bobby | August 09, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Mr. Vizcarra is blowing smoke. The only thing the 77 million retirees will miss is having to worry about their grandchildren being victimized by illegal aliens, having to find someone in customer service who speaks English, worrying about how long they'll have to wait in and emergency room.
Adios illegals.
Posted by: Jim McMullen | August 09, 2008 at 04:04 PM
So the Mexican consul thinks we'll miss their illegals. I miss my parents, I miss chocolate, I miss rain in these dry days, but I can think of nothing I would miss less than a country full of illegal aliens. Senor, we've got two million legal immigrants coming in each year and they all need jobs. If we had anything but idiots in Washington, we'd never have had this problem to begin with. We, the people, are working hard to get rid of them - both illegals AND polticians.
Posted by: June | August 09, 2008 at 06:11 PM
Wow, you people sound mad and I don't blame you. How insulting, the POS is saying we need these mentally retarted uneducated folks to replace the baby boomers. Pa-leeezz. Oh, are they just going to be placed in the hospitals, colleges, courts, NASA etc. to learn the ropes so they can replace the millions of professionals there! We boomers really excelled we didn't nail boards. I don't think Pedro will just be able to come in and replace me or anyone in any real profession. Brain surgery is not the same as picking tomatoes, and you must WASH your hands! Americans have had enough of this anarchy by our own government and Mexico's. I see violence on the horizen and believe me I think it will start here in New Orleans because good or bad, people here are not going to let their city be taken over by the illegals like LA and Houston and Miami. Please FIGHT back California.
Posted by: CAL | August 09, 2008 at 06:25 PM
.The president cannot make an amnesty happen as you saw with the case of President Bush.
Comment by Ed W. (edweirdness)
The President can't craft legislation, he can only use the "bully" pulpit to advocate for laws he supports. The House and Senate are where the real problem with enforcing our immigration laws rests. Voters have an unprecedented, non-partisan opportunity to effect great change this November.
I call it voting in "self defense". By voting out incumbents where ever possible, we, the people, can change the balance of power and tenure in Congress. We can marginalize the damage that either a McCain or an Obama presidency will cause. By removing as many long term, all-powerful Congressional incumbents, we can upset the partisan apple cart that usurps the will of America's Citizens.
Who knows, once we get through the catharsis of voting in self defense rather than in partisan self interests, we might see more responsible people willing to run for office, and more Citizens finding benefit in voting.
Waiting for a third party that may never arrive is definitly not in our best interests. Frequent "House and Senate" cleaning is a method whereby we can limit the tenure and power of Congressional leaders and restore accountability as an incentive for politicians to follow the will of the people.
Congressional approval ratings are even more abysmal than President Bush's approval ratings. There are no negative down side risks to trying someone new as opposed to reinstating someone who sucks hard! The farther politicians get from direct accountability to their constituents (incumbency) the less representative they are of the people they represent. Increasingly, incumbents focus only on the moneyed and special interests that can keep them in office. The easiest way to deal with the problem of incumbency, is to eliminate incumbency by turning out politicians at every opportunity. The benefits in reducing earmarks, and the reduction in tax payers funded pensions and pay increases would doubtless fund much needed programs from which we, the people would benefit.
Do your homework people.
Thought this would say it best
Walter Moore for mayor of L.A.
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Posted by: americangal4ever | August 09, 2008 at 07:07 PM
Adios my friends! Go back and clean the cesspool that is Mexico. Nobody will miss you. Mexican illegals are the lowest of the low and the vilest of the vile. You are just a disgusting group.
Posted by: jrg | August 10, 2008 at 01:09 AM
These immigrants are tax-payers. According to the Social Security Administration, it is estimated that illegal immigrants have paid $450 billion to the SS security fund. Immigrant Households and Businesses Generate Billions: In 2005, immigrant households and businesses paid approximately $300 billion in federal, state, and local taxes: $165 billion in federal income taxes, $85 billion in state and local income taxes, and $50 billion in business taxes. Immigrants Pay More in Taxes Than They Use in Services Over Their Lifetimes: Depending on skills and level of education, each immigrant pays, on average, between $20,000 and $80,000 more in taxes than he or she consumes in public benefits. Seventy five percent of immigrants arrive in the United States when they are in their prime working years. With 80 million baby-boomers retiring in the next 20 years, most of them white, it will be these immigrants who will be suppor Social Security so that these elderly people won' die in poverty.
Posted by: C L | August 10, 2008 at 06:04 PM
they are self-deporting, finally some good news!!!
Posted by: HeyIgotsomethingto say | August 11, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Uhh, C.L. you wanna give some links to your 'data'-- its possible on this internet thingy you know. In fact, the only easily available estimates I find are $7 billion for 2005, in 2007 social security took in $785 billion. So illegal immigrant contributions are only about 1% of all Social Security paid. A very slight upward adjustment of the level at which income becomes exempt from social security tax could easily make up for that and then some, with the added bonus that SS will become less regressive.
Posted by: Mitchell Young | August 11, 2008 at 11:41 AM
The population explosion south of the border has been a plan for many years.Back in the late eighties ,early nineties iasked a mexican friend what viva la raza was all about. She told me then that the mexicans figured they could breed us out of power.Beat us with sheer numbers." Low wages are partially to blame"? What a joke. Corrupt mexican government and greed are to blame.And in order to beat us they have to vote so they have to immigrate illegally to have their babies here to get citizenship to vote.Today we march tomorrow we vote.Illegal aliens coming to america to give birth to their anchor babies who will grow up and vote us out of power in our own country.Wake up America.
Posted by: Jim Williams | August 12, 2008 at 07:38 AM
We'll miss you? In a pig's eye we will. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.
Posted by: MaryJ | August 12, 2008 at 10:27 PM
"Aging U.S. will miss Mexican Immigrants"
ONLY...in your perverted, parasitic little bird brain. The American people despises the very presence in our country of this vermin.
Leave ...ALL OF YOU bloodsucking parasites and NEVER come back!!!!!!
Posted by: GetOUTnow | August 13, 2008 at 09:40 PM
From what I've heard, countries such as Mexico and China are actually AGING FASTER than the US and don't have the social safety nets that we do. Mexico, in short, needs us (and the Social Security totalization agreement) much more than we need it. Given that most of the illegal aliens we're getting from Mexico are unskilled and uneducated, and having more children than we are, they and their kids will compete with our elderly for scarce dollars. Nor will they be doing the jobs that baby boomers are retiring from--most of those need at least a high school education.
Posted by: Ali | August 18, 2008 at 12:34 PM