We hope you're enjoying this week's Dust-Up on the struggles of the L.A. Times.

Yesterday, Patrick Frey and Marc Cooper debated what's causing the paper's troubles.

Today, they take a look at what L.A. would look like without its largest paper. (Survivors, as Krusty the Clown once noted, would envy the dead.)

And tonight they will be part of a whither-the-Times roundtable on KCRW radio's Which Way, L.A.? with Warren Olney. The lineup will include L.A. Times editor Russ Stanton, Dust-Up participants Cooper and Frey and Los Angeles Current Affairs Forum's Emma Schafer, who has canceled her subscription. You can listen by tuning in to FM 89.9 or the KCRW site at 7:00 pm (Pacific), and/or listen to a recording after the broadcast at the Which Way, L.A.? page.