In today's pages: MSM self-loathing and Hillary hate
Columnist Rosa Brooks plays Hillary Clinton:
Thank you, Pennsylvania! What an incredible margin of victory you gave me! Ten percentage points over Barack Obama. Count 'em! Ten!
All right, 9.2 points if you insist on actually counting. But they said I had to win by double digits to keep my campaign alive, and I think 9.2 points counts as double digits. And I am alive! And kicking! And punching and biting and kneeing my opponent in the groin!
Contributing editor Arianna Huffington says only a media filled with self-loathing could hire the likes of former Bush rep Tony Snow. USC emeritus professor Robert E. Tranquada argues for an independent authority to oversea L.A. county health services. And columnist Patt Morrison reveals what she and other Angelenos would do with the city budget if they had their way. (Coffee poured by the mayor at the Getty House Bed and Breakfast, anyone?)
The editorial board praises three African countries that stopped a Chinese arms shipment to Zimbabwe, looks to a 1983 report on education for present-day advice, and looks beyond the Democratic primary in Pennsylvania:
The Democratic race only seems interminable; there will be a winner, and he or she will reconcile with the loser and call for party unity. If Republicans can withstand the abrupt alliance of Sen. John McCain and Mitt Romney, why shouldn't Democrats be united by an enthusiastic endorsement of Clinton by Obama, or vice versa? After all, for all the attacks, the two Democrats aren't far apart on policy.
On the letters page, readers take on the race, as well. Valley Village's Larry Margo has this to say to Clinton-bashers: "Quick! Stop her! Force her out before she wins again!"


Obama is our Savior. Obama, Ayers, and Reverend Wright are Right! God D*** america! The stupid, bitter, racist "typical white people" of pennsylvania voted for clinton. How disgusting. They ignored their opportunity to redeem themselves for their racist past - slavery - and finally make Michelle proud. How sad. Please no hater responses, but typical white people, please stop buying guns you biiter small town hicks, and save it for my reparations check! Obama ''08, Repartions Check, ''09! http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/racism/0108 27.reparations.html
Posted by: Obamamania | April 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM
I wish that Hilary stop pretending that she is the best candidate, stop attacking Obama, and drop out of the race immediately.
All I ever heard from Hillary is how good she is in comparison to Obama...I have never heard from her what is her strategy to run the white house.......?????
Posted by: Henry Malespin | April 24, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Hillary Hate?
It is not 'hate' to dislike a corrupt politician and her creepy cronies.
How many fund raisers for this politician have been indicted and jailed now? I know of at least 2 - and those are still just from her Senate race.
How many more will be jailed when they get around to the current race?
Posted by: NickAtnight | April 24, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Hillary is working the reality bending kaleidoscope to the maximum. It would take narcotics to believe her math simple marijuana or pills cannot take yo to this level of disbelief. The good news is that there are not enough narcotics even with her new ten million dollars to pass around. If there were enough narcotics to pass around the Clintons would buy up the supply and hand them out while telling everyone they were Pez candies. Enough lying and counting on the magic abacus Hillary. Hang around if you want until the remaining nine contests are over and then try your best to get those you have addicted to the lies to go to rehab with Amy Winehouse and vote there senses and put a Democrat in the White House. Go Barack Go.
Posted by: Joseph E. Bento | April 24, 2008 at 11:00 AM
"Contributing editor Arianna Huffington says only a media filled with self-loathing could hire the likes of former Bush rep Tony Snow."
But then, only a public filled with self-loathing would listen to Arianna Huffington...
Posted by: carcajou | April 24, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Hillary Clinton is a lying cow.
Whoever votes for her is stupid.
Sorry Pennsylvania....you were duped
Posted by: Steven Wilson | April 24, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Valley Village's Larry Margo has this to say to Clinton-bashers: "Quick! Stop her! Force her out before she wins again!"
"Wins again"?? She’s not "winning".
Ohhh please!! I'm kinda enjoying watching her lose. If Obama takes Indiana, Hill is toast.
I wonder though....will we have to FORCE her out? Is she so proud that she will never admit "losing" anything?
I would be OK with the "dream ticket", but Hillary needs to look up the word, "deportment".
Posted by: ApostasyUSA | April 24, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Role Model for Children - Obama
A week ago Obama gave the 'finger' to Hillary on national television and smugly laughed about it with his audience. Is this type of malicious immaturity what you want your children to learn: lack of tolerance, vengeance and the bully mentality? After that one event, besides the mindless and uneducated, how could anyone seriously consider this Obama for any office?
Also, Obama's state-senate candidacy was launched at Weather Underground bombers Ayers house in 1995. Ayers who advocates the violent destruction of America may have much more to do with promoting Obama than we know. The organization MoveOn has aggressively intimidated delegates to vote for Obama and to shun Hillary and is likely closely connected with Ayers. Ayers finally got his bomb - Obama.
Obama also rigged his election to become senator by unfairly disqualifying his opponents. He did this by meticulously finding fault with each of the other candidates signed petitions until each of the contenders had to drop out, Obama was the last one standing, there was no election. This was another finger gesture towards the American public by Obama.
If this isn't enough, look at Obama's affiliations:
Wright
Meeks
Ayers
Abongo "Roy" Obama
Rashid Khalidi
Robert Malley
Hamas
McPeaks
Rezko
Auchi
And the list goes on...
This may be the time of the Anti-Christ, but do you want to be on the list of people who voted for him?
Posted by: Charles Talaros | April 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Blacks and Latte Libs - Pushed by Failed Uber Libs Kerry, Kennedy, Richardson - All Losers in their Attempts. Only "Moderate Democrats" Carter & Clinton - Have Been Elected Since JFK... McGovern, Gene McCarthy, Mondale, Dukakis All FAILED?
Open Your Eyes! Why has the Pro-Republican Media & Pundits ONLY ATTACKED Mrs CLINTON up to now, and Silent on Obama? Because They Know they Can Beat Barack Hussein, but not Hillary Rodman- She "Is Vetted" by 5 Year Investigations by Ken Starr & Republican Power Base - With NO RESULTS! Their Obama Nomination Strategy allows "Swiftboating Barak Hussein", they know there is a lot to Dig Up to Slime and Win!
It "IS All About Experience and ability to Fight" To REPAIR seven years of Lies by Republican Mal-Administration, rampant Federal Law violations, Documented 935 Iraq War of Choice Lies by Bush and Cheney, Corporatism in Government - Allowing the manipulation of unregulated trading of oil and Energy Prices, lax enforcement of environmental laws, no mine safety regulation fines, attack on Constitutional Bill of Rights, Free Speech, spying on Americans, from imprisoning demonstrators in New York at Republican Convention to lying to Justice Investigation Valerie Plame violation of Federal Security Laws by Bush, directed by Cheney secret government and Irve Libby neocon manipulations, Karl Rove leaks to Robert Novak, etc.
Yes, Experience Is More Important than Republican Media Hype to support Obama "bring us together", rather than Reverse Last 8 years!
Posted by: Robert | April 24, 2008 at 11:18 AM
The fact that the Democratic nominee was not choosen as of Feb 5( Super Tuesday) is ironic to me. Clinton with the well known name, husband who had serve two terms as President of the United States of America(well the last term in disgrace) How come she hasnt won the nomination. An How come she's so far behind. More than anything else POOR JUDGEMENT. She assumed it was all over before it started. POOR JUDGEMENT when it came to the most CRITICAL Question. Should we go to war , Not to mentioned Naftagate which she promoted, bosniagate which she lied. An to top it all off she has a veracity problem and most people don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth.
Posted by: David Alan Hawkins | April 24, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Ok...so one wins and enters office promising change. Question: How can that person possible do anything to try and correct the mess when they owe their souls and all their future actions to the corporations giving them millions. Are they going to bite the many hands that feed them? Are they going to say " I know you all gave me all those millions but I am going to do what I think is right for the country...not what is on your agenda." I don't think so. It will be back to the same old politics and a do nothing congress only interested in power and money...not in America or the American people. The corporations don't seem to understand ..if America goes down...they will go down with her.
Posted by: dan mccoy | April 24, 2008 at 11:44 AM
It is odd that the democratic energy's foundation is based on emotion not pragmatic thought of any sort. It is amazing how hate can take control, it is seen in how the contenders and supporters behave. A little saying from the Anne Frank exhibit, the words may not be as I state. " When the power of love is stronger than the love of power there will be peace."
As we see with the democrats the love of power exceeds all. There is very little the democrats have done for this country in the past year and a half. There is very little the contenders have stated that will do much if anything for this country, than take what they do no deserve and give it to those that do not deserve it.
Posted by: Paul Mathieu | April 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM
one more thing......
What is up with the propagandists?
Lists of associations? Is that ALL you got?
Pick ANY politician and you can make a list of "contentious" associations. Are people so obtuse? Maybe, cause someone out there just loves proliferating innuendo and propaganda about Obama.
None of the propaganda out here on the sphere is aimed at anyone other than Obama.....go figure.........someone fears him.
Maybe you didn't get the memo.....but this is the age of information............innuendo and propaganda is no longer useful psyops tools.
You wanna get some Republicans?....lets go.........other wise go sit in the corner with your talking point spewing fallacy of a constituency.....
Posted by: ApostasyUSA | April 24, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Goodness. Some serious 'Obama-hating' going down among those 'bitter' folks. Where to start on corrections, hmmm. First, Obama did not give anyone the finger. Another camera angle on the event showed clearly that he was scratching his face with two fingers, not one.
Second, Reverend Wright is well respected by many ministers that know him, white and black both. Taking a few wild statements out of years of videotape would give a distorted view of anyone - just ask Hillary about the distortions on that tape of her Tuzla sniper exerience.
Then, Obama dared to serve on a charity board of directors and be friendly with a college professor who was never convicted of any crimes, the horror. I'm sure no one out among the readers has ever associated with anyone dubious.
And, if you'd bother to watch the interview he did with Charlie Rose in 2004 or 2005, you can see that the 'bitter' comment was him understanding that people only vote on issues they feel politicians actually will listen to them on. If politicians campaign on economic change and new jobs, but never deliver on them, of course they'll stop voting based on those sorts of promises.
Finally, taking someone actually requiring rules to be followed as 'rigging' an election is insane. 'Rigging' an election is when you DON'T follow the rules. Running elections properly according to the rules is what you're supposed to do.
I'm just surprised that silly 'He's secretly a Muslim' idiocy wasn't pulled out of the bag of lies as well.
Posted by: Dr B | April 24, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Think about it… within the last 2 decades - two of the most critical decisions that have affected America’s economy and growth have been screwed up all because Hillary Clinton folded under pressure. First NAFTA and agreed with Bush to go to War. America is now jobless and bankrupt and we can thank Hillary Clinton for contributing to that problem. Now she wants us to trust her in fixing it? She can’t even balance the budget of her campaign. Her campaign is bankrupt. How can she be trusted to be the steward of America when she can’t balance a simple campaign budget?
Hillary Clinton is not tough. She caves in under pressure – but not from the blue collar people she appeals to but the white collar corporate and congressman who are paying her income.
The republicans are not going to hesitate in ripping her apart and they will bring up:
NAFTA – Lied. She promoted and supported, but now is against.
IRELAND – Lied again. About what she really did – Ambassadors say literally did NOTHING
MACEDONIA – Lied again. Came the day after agreement was reached
HEALTHCARE Lied again. Plan in California that Ted Kennedy created NOT HILLLARY
BOSNIA – Lied again. Was never in harms way did not dodge sniper fire
COLOMBIA Trade – Lied again. There is no way her husband earned $800, 000 from this deal and she knew NOTHING about it.
BIMBO SQUAD – if the republicans decide to get personal – they are going to expose how she covered up Bill’s affairs by using secret service surveillance agents to keep the press out of her husbands numerous affairs. Until Monica - gate happened. Then they will accuse her of lying to congress at Bills impeachment hearings about her knowledge of the affair.
They are going to expose Hillary Clinton as being a liar and coward. And it will work.
The republicans are going to expose her as not only a liar, but a weak person who caves in under pressure. Then they are going to say John McCain is a war hero who withstood being a prisoner of war and fought against Bush tax cuts for the wealthy (regardless of if he agrees to them now). Hillary will lose against John McCain in November.
The only thing the republicans have against Barack (besides his being a black man) is: Wright and the word “bitter.” Barack will win against John McCain and they know it. Why do you think in these last couple of primaries they have been encouraging republicans to change their party and vote democrat for Hillary? They are setting up the democrats for lost and it’s you know what? It’s actually working.
Posted by: ymaxoneil | April 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Hilarity Clinton cannot:
Admit lying.
Admit that she is unable to lead and manage her small budget compared to the massive federal budget.
Admit that she cannot lead and manage a campaign staff compared to a massive federal bureaucracy.
Admit that her divisiveness doomed her attempt to pass health care reforms during her husband's adminstration, and is likely to do so again.
Admit that she hasn't owned or fired or been around a weapon since the days as a child, and that she is an avid supporter of gun control and registration.
Admit -- well, I'm sure others can add to the list.
Posted by: Phil Douglas | April 24, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Bush promised his 'people' he would take care of them till he was in office - follow the money - e.g. gas companies have profits surpassing all records. Clinton and Obama will be no different. McCain is a seasoned veteran - his love for his country may be a little more palatable. Moral of the story - 'politics is the last refuge for scoundrals' . Shed a tear for the common proletariat that has no good choice...........
Posted by: S.A. | April 24, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Anyone who wants to listen to Hillary and Bill lie for the next eight years, and listen to self pity raised to an art form, be my guest. Hillary will run this country like she has run her campaign-- into the sewer. I'll be on my way to New Zealand.
Posted by: Rob H | April 24, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Hillary has been deemed dead how many times now by the media and supporters of Senator Obama. The real irony is that Democrats are not willing to let go of Senator Clinton. Look at how Democrats are treating each other. I feel as though the black community is warning America that if the superdelegates go for Senator Clinton they will not vote or worse. There's a problem here. I think more than 28% of Senator Clinton's supporters will stay home or vote for Senator McCain if it appears as though she's been pushed aside. I believe that may have happened already with the way Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and John Kerry and especially Bill Richardson to name a few have treated her. This may very easily result in a huge loss. The blame will be theirs, not Senator Clinton's.
Posted by: cb | April 24, 2008 at 12:35 PM
mr charles talaros or taylor people like you have pushed America and AMERICANS to be hateD by they world.what is meaning of your foolish dermocracy if it has COLOUR OR RACE. BACKWARD ,DONT MAKE HATE A HOBBY OO
Posted by: UCHE | April 24, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Let's agree that this is a very interesting race and that both candidates have very similar views on the issues. There should not be so much hate and anger if a person wants to support one candidate over another. If Obama is able to finally close the deal then he should be the nominee and we as democrats should unite and stand behind him. He will have proven that his youth and inexperience is not a liability and he is ready to lead the country. On the other hand if Hillary is able to fight tooth and nail to the bitter end and come out on top then she deserves to be the nominee. She will have proven through her tenacity that she is ready to lead the country and nothing can stand in her way. Either way we will have a seasoned nominee that realizes the importance of getting out of Iraq, improving healthcare, stopping the financial crisis and helping those Americans most in need. Both candidates have done some distasteful things but this is a race, a contest, a competition, a fight and each candidate truly believes what they can offer the country is what is right. So let's respect them for that passion and try to over look the negativity of the fight. So when that last man or woman is standing, let's fully get behind them and freakin mop the national election with John McCain and his out of date Bushesque (which years ago weren't his ideas) policies.
Posted by: Greg | April 24, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Is Obama really planning on giving reparations to black people as president? Maybe he'll call it a rebate.
Posted by: JR | April 24, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Charles Talaros said:
"A week ago Obama gave the 'finger' to Hillary on national television and smugly laughed about it with his audience."
I'm calling BS. How can you give someone the finger who isn't there? He scratched his face with his middle finger? A little different. Giving someone the finger means you stick it up at them? These comments are why we never get to focus on the BIG ISSUES that will matter to American's and our children.
Be a role model to your children and teach them to speak the truth and to see the bigger picture. Not to wine and cry about someone scratching their face with their middle finger.
Posted by: 2cents | April 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Paul Mathieu, the only intelligible thing in your post was the quote, "When the power of love is stronger than the love of power there will be peace."
Kind of ironic that you are bashing "democrats" with a Jimi Hendrix quote and trying to attribute it to Anne Frank.
But yea... in addition to being the greatest guitarist ever, Jimi was a very wise soul.
Posted by: Peacedog | April 24, 2008 at 12:53 PM
"obamamania" = typical Hillary campaign tactic. Can you not give us a single reason to vote FOR Hillary, or is negative spin on Obama all she's got to offer??? Also, please stop cut 'n pasting that same tripe on every campaign story you come across, that horse has been beat to death already... plus the only people ignorant enough to fall for it are probably voting for Hilldawgs anyway... ruf, ruf!
Posted by: Mat Randall | April 24, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Give me a break.
He knows these people. People disagree with their own parents much less with people they know. At any rate, Hillary has far longer list of unsavory people associated with her.
Obama or McCain. No Hillary.
Posted by: Adam | April 24, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Thank you for your post, Charles
The facts are on the ground and no one should ignore them. Obama is RADICAL hard left LIBERAL and he has the friends and the agenda to prove it. Plus all that free-flowing cash more than implies how easy it is to wash dirty money on the web - just give it to obama.
Let's just ask ourselves what kind of change obama would make? The kind any beginner, JUNIOR senator would make. They are called mistakes. And as far as how nice obama is - please...... if he can't take a hit from a friend (Hilary) (yes ladies and gentlemen they are friends) how will he respond to Kim Jong?
His high flying ideas do not sound fool-proof to me. As far as Hilary goes anyone who REALLY checks the record with an objective, open mind would know that all that hate is based on a long running and unsubstantiated smear with no fact. The TRUTH is significant for a woman who has done more than any other in the history of our politics. Haters and radical zealots are hardly the best way to pick a president.
Huffington post speaks highly of the bomb as they are PAID well to do so. They get big bites of the obama cash cow to run an under-read rag that is BIASED to the core.
Again thank you to the poster Charles for laying out the clear facts in the matter. The media obviously won't do it - they are too into all that free-flowing cash.
Posted by: Rose | April 24, 2008 at 12:56 PM
I've got the perfect solution to Dem party leaders who are worried about Obama getting the working class votes. He should ask John Edwards to be his running mate. Many of Edwards' supporters went over to Obama after Edwards left the race. And he is a champion of the working class and an extremely admirable person. How about it? An Obama/Edwards ticket. Barack, go talk to John right now!
Posted by: Chris | April 24, 2008 at 01:05 PM
Okay, so for all you dems out there... can we maybe stop with the candidate-bashing? I understand that some of you feel very strongly about your candidate, whoever that may be. The most important thing is getting one of the two in the White House. All of these hateful comments are doing nothing to help. After reading some of these comments, I can see where people come from when they say that the party is self-destructing. No matter who we support, can we please be a little bit respectful of both of these amazing two candidates? Maybe, just maybe, it will help with reconciliation come the general election.
Posted by: moose | April 24, 2008 at 01:06 PM
There is a segment of the African American population that is just as dangerous and extreme as any white supremacist group that exists. The one thing this ignorance is doing is relieving all "white people" of any guilt voting. If this is the way the African American population behave, they will riot whether he wins or not. He can't do everything he promises, or they take for granted will materialize with a black president. When their "utopia" doesn't materialize they will riot anyway.
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Posted by: Lynn1951 | April 24, 2008 at 01:09 PM
TO OBAMAMANIAC: Not ALL Pennsylvanians voted for Clinton -- we're not stupid! 45.4% of us voted for Senator Obama, because we are just as fed up with the politics-as-usual crowd as you are. And not all of us "ignored their opportunity to redeem themselves for their racist past - slavery" . Yes -- some of us white, working-class women voted for Obama. Among my friends the issue that matters is "morals," and frankly, we don't think the Clintons have any. We convinced as many of our friends and family as possible to vote for Obama, too, and we think we did a fairly good job, since Senator Obama picked up 77 more delagates, only 4 less than Mrs. Clinton. I think Obamamaniac needs to examine himself as far as "racism" goes - since his comments scream "BIGOT" -- and YES - a black person CAN be racist - the same as a person who discriminates against those of other "colors." Senator Obama seems to be pushing for unity among Americans - can't you follow his example?
Posted by: Sharan | April 24, 2008 at 01:09 PM
Yeah all those years of Hillary's "experience" needed to stop those 7 years of ''lies" by Republicans. She's done such a good job up to this point doing nothing and that's considered "experience". Wow, I'll take my chances with someone with new ideas that gives even a possibility of changing the status quo "experienced" Clinton has helped propogate. Obama '08 to end the Bush-Clinton monarchy.
Posted by: Chris | April 24, 2008 at 01:10 PM
Please folks! Let's look at what Hillary's "stretching" the truth on now. Now she's claiming to have the popular vote? What? Well, she's including Floriday and Michigan where all Democrats agreed would not be counted. AND, she's including winning Michigan where Obama's name wasn't even on the ballet! And, that's assuming he gets NO delegates for what he would win (since she thinks she'd win it). Hillary Clinton is as corrupt as they come. She's AGAIN lying to the public. I'm sorry but I agree with the person that posted the people of Pennsylvania were dupped! They need to "THINK" about who they vote for more closely. Oh..by the way the person that posted the comment about Ayers and Obama....Bill Clinton pardoned 2 people from that group. And, did you know that way back when...Ayers was (granted doing it the wrong way) but was protesting the war in Vietnam? He cared about our troops! Just need to point out how important it is to see things in perspective. OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Kim Jensen | April 24, 2008 at 01:10 PM
"When the power of love is stronger than the love of power there will be peace."
-Anne Frank exhibit? Perhaps.
try - Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: Jay Sullivan | April 24, 2008 at 01:11 PM
I think my ancestors already made up for America's "sin" of racism. It was called the civil war. How can we not recognize the sacrifices "white" America made during this time. the soldiers fought against their brothers and the families suffered to right a wrong. So to Obamamania.. I don't owe you or barack anything. You like to name call behind your computer. I bet you keep your mouth closed in public for fear of getting knocked the f*&% out. I can't really blame you though, It's what Barack "The Hack" has been doing since the beginning. Don't be bitter now. If he wins the nomination, you'll have a chance to be bitter for four more years cupcake.
Posted by: Mike Roberts | April 24, 2008 at 01:11 PM
A year ago I saw Hillary and Barak as neck and neck, and generally in a positive light, in terms of exorcising the nation beginning in January from a maddening level of Republican corruption...a corruption my friends, family and peers did not imagine possible in our lifetimes.
How this has changed: I voted for Bill Clinton twice. But now I see the Bill and Hillary, whom Republicans learned to hate, in such cynicism and deceit in their electioneering that all we could ever hope for in the fall is a Speed Boat marathon in both directions and an electorate compelled to stay home in November just our of revulsion.
I'm a white guy, raised in a staunchly Republican born-again, white-bread region. These people, if they're over 35, and much akin to PA's "Alabama in the Middle" do not trust blacks period…it’s unthinkable if over 50! Even when their obsession with segregation is not in their minds, it is their lifelong emotional and physical reflex. Look at the mid-American landscape where we drive umpteen thousands of miles a year to exurbs to stay away from those “other” people. Rarely do the older white folk have friends anywhere in their private lives who are not simply their ethnic twins. God help us we should learn something new from a those with a new perspective.
My view of this world was turned upside down by an African American roommate at a Big Ten school year back, and clearly one of the finest persons in the entire campus dormitory. Subsequently, I've made it a point in my life to embrace those who are not just like me. Maybe it is not always easy and comfortable to see through genetic happenstance to the heart of the individual human being.
But, it makes life infinitely more interesting and invigorating, and every year it's more apparent that hiding from one another as do these Middle America, Silent Majority, Normal Rockwell, head-in-the-sand dinosaurs will take down the country, economy, and Earth itself for the momentary pretense of “no change.” Let’s remember that all living things change gradually and incessantly as long as they live…in nature “no change” really means death.
Furthermore, I know of many folks in their 70s and 80s who were abused children in the 1920s and 30s, so let's not kid ourselves about that imaginary Rockwellian past. It was good in many ways and awful in others, so let's take the good and remember to build on it, rather than park our brains for eternity, because we won the big war with bigger bombs and ONLY WE had factories in the 50s.
Getting back to Barak, he offends Middle America's need for constant and perfect sameness. It's identity politics to the extreme in a time when were just are not all the same anymore, even on the surface. Meanwhile, Hillary and McSame will be selling their souls and our futures to billionaires in the Hamptons and Houston, but always with the sales pitch that they are hunting and kickin' back beers with ma and pa down on the farm.
Hello America, Jeffersonian democracy will not endure on his trajectory. Let's be bigger than our cushy egos and greed this time and elect a brilliant man who is not the mirror image of our fearful narcissism, to which Hillary and McSame will pander with guns and beers in hand.
Posted by: Steve M | April 24, 2008 at 01:12 PM
It is fine to me that Sen. Clinton can fiercely fight her primary election until June, but in mathematical numbers pertaining to number of delegates, states and popular votes won by Sen. Omaba, it is impossible for her to enable to catch up with in relation to remaining primary election states. If she becomes a party nominee, my vote will go to Sen. McCain period.
Cheer Obama 08
Posted by: Christopher Xaphakdy | April 24, 2008 at 01:15 PM
obamamania said:
Obama is our Savior. Obama, Ayers, and Reverend Wright are Right! God D*** america! The stupid, bitter, racist "typical white people" of pennsylvania voted for clinton. How disgusting. They ignored their opportunity to redeem themselves for their racist past - slavery - and finally make Michelle proud. How sad. Please no hater responses, but typical white people, please stop buying guns you biiter small town hicks, and save it for my reparations check! Obama ''08, Repartions Check, ''09!
Here is what I have to say to you, obamamania.
You sound more racist than any white person I know. What do I have to redeem myself for? I have never made a racist comment, never had a slave, never discriminated against anyone because of their race or any other reason. So what is it that I has 1/2 white person ever done to you. I as part Native American could be racist toward whites about taking our land and killing hundreds of thousands of us in their quest for freedom, but I am not. These heinous crimes were not committed by me, my parents, or even my grandparents. So why are you condemning all whites for something that was over 100 years ago. Yes, there has still be discrimination against blacks and other minority races, but that was not committed by all whites not even the majority of whites in the last 20 years or so. There has been a lot of horrifying, disgusting things happen to minorities in this country since its founding in 1776, but holding on to hate for things that happened hundreds of years ago or even 40 years ago is ludicrous. You need to seek help to deal with your issues. It is absurd to blame every white person in America for these wrongs. If something has happened to you personally, the people you should hate are the specific people that have wronged you. Despite research depicting that African-American males are more likely to commit a violent crime than a white male, I cannot look at every black male and say he is a criminal or will become one. It is insane. Let go of your prejudice and move on. Furthermore, if you hate America so much, LEAVE!!!!
Posted by: robandphe | April 24, 2008 at 01:15 PM
Who is running these Clinton smearsters who manage to pollute every comments section of every major news website within minutes?
You're giving your candidate a bad name. Your mastery of the facts is about on par with a chain letter.
Posted by: Dorris Day | April 24, 2008 at 01:20 PM
Charles Talaros, thanks for telling such an obviously ridiculous lie that not even the most biased, intelligence-challenged reader would dream of believing it. You say he gave her the finger a week ago on national television? Give me a break. Aside from the fact that it's not in his character, it would have been the biggest story, the most-shown picture, in years. Yet somehow I haven't heard a thing about it until now. Yeah, that seems logical. The other members of whatever campaign you're rooting for must really be proud of you.
Posted by: DoTheMath | April 24, 2008 at 01:26 PM
"obamamania" = typical Hillary campaign tactic. Can you not give us a single reason to vote FOR Hillary, or is negative spin on Obama all she's got to offer??? Also, please stop cut 'n pasting that same tripe on every campaign story you come across, that horse has been beat to death already... plus the only people ignorant enough to fall for it are probably voting for Hilldawgs anyway... ruf, ruf!
Posted by: Mat Randall | April 24, 2008 at 01:36 PM
Barack Obama will WIN against John McCain.
Hillary needs to get out of the race.
She is a SPOILER, JEALOUS and DESPERATE!
BARACK OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!
I am a white woman and feel this race shouldn't be about race or gender.
God Bless,
Michelle
Posted by: Michelle | April 24, 2008 at 01:38 PM
Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama are both excellent candidates for President. Unfortunately, only one can be President (this time around). As Mrs. Clinton developed her campaign team and network over the past few years, she looked invinceable. As such, she choose to remain "above the fray" during her early interactions with the other candidates, waiting for her ordination. A funny thing happened along the way. Mr. Obama developed a remarkable grass roots campaign that connected with many voters. Mrs. Clinton and her team scrambled to understand what had happened. Once they realized that they were in a downward spiral, desperation set in. Now, instead of focusing on issues, Mrs. Clinton and her proxies are doing everything in their power to destroy Mr. Obama's reputation. This Rovian method of operation helped put Mr. Bush in the White House over the last two election cycles. Enough already! Let's not stoop to this level. Let's keep the debate and discussion on issues that are relevant. Mrs. Clinton must be credited for her tenacity. However, one should not confuse tenacity with petty, personal attacks. Moreover, she should not be allowed to change the rules that all demo candidates agreed to in not participating in Michigan and Florida. Mr. Obama and she both PLEDGED not to participate in those primaries. If after the smoke clears, Mr. Obama is leading in states, popular vote, and pledged delegates, he should be the Democratic Party's candidate. The same holds true for Mrs. Clinton. If, through some bizzare superdelegate meltdown, the candidate holding the lead in states, delegates, and votes, is not selected, then I, and many others, will wonder why we voted in the first place. I will be hard pressed to support the Democratic Candidate.
Posted by: jrt | April 24, 2008 at 01:41 PM
I am a white female age 47 - totally an all america girl raised in California and I TOTALLY support Obama. I have no idea why Hillary is still hanging on. She was overall the supposed candidate to take this race and look what happened.
She wasn't expecting such a formidable and challenging and logical and likeable opponent.
HE was the underdog - not HIllary!
I do admire her determination, but I hope it is not "at all costs."
Posted by: Erika | April 24, 2008 at 01:56 PM
People who hate Obama were just looking for excuses to justify their hate. You know who you are and most importantly you know it does not matter if it was Wright, Michelle, his daughters or a simple word like bitter. You would never cast your vote for a black man. So stop pretending like Wright is makes a difference.
Posted by: ymaxoneil | April 24, 2008 at 01:59 PM
It amazes me how women can vote for Hitlery. I hope my wife votes for her, because then it means she thinks it's ok to have an affair. She told Obama a minister is a personnel choice, well is the person who choose to stay married to also a personnel choice? I can understand why uneducated white men are voting for her. They admire a women who can stay married to a liar and a cheater.
Posted by: Tom | April 24, 2008 at 02:20 PM
Yeah, Charles Talaros, that Hillary Clinton sure is a role model for children herself. If you ignore Whitewater, Travelgate, who killed Mr. Vince Foster questions, Filegate, and "Stand by your man".
She's a GREAT example for all the little children with the last name of Clinton and Bush that might want to run for president some day and a wonderful example for those who like to lie, cheat, and miss-add their way to the top!
Posted by: TruthTeller | April 24, 2008 at 02:37 PM
Who is Charles Talaros? (Is it Bill?) He has written the same lies about Obama on every newspaper blog. Bill, you're going to need a new alias. We're on to you.
The Clintons have been in bed with more thugs and criminals than we can count.
Obama is the man who can unite our country. Hilary will continue to follow the Bush/Rove/Cheney politics of divisiveness.
Posted by: Martha | April 24, 2008 at 03:05 PM
It was no surprise that a state full of people who have been waiting for years for the factory jobs to come back would vote for Hillary. PA folks state they are sooooo concerned about their economic situation BUT continue to stay in PA instead of move to another state for more economic prosperity. Essentially Pennsylvania is full of people that make loser decisions in all apsects of their life. Pennsylvania picked the loser and they know it. Even the exit polling showed that the majority thought Obama would win the nomination even though they voted for Clinton.
Posted by: azguy | April 24, 2008 at 06:40 PM
The Clintons are obviously the attack dogs, having "fun" as Hillary calls her negative campaign. To spin it and to attack Obama for being negative is disingenous and deceitful. To call the Clintons on their attacks is to be then criticized for being negative! Please! Give the American voters a break--we are not as dumb as Hillary would like us to be. An Asian American senior citizen feminist, I deeply appreciate it when American citizens rally around support to appeal to our better angels as a nation. The Clinton dynastic sense of entitlement is against everything we more recent immigrants believe and hold dear. Instead of combating racism in the US, the Clintons have been saying that Obama is not electable because of his race. This implies that as a nation we are doomed to electing whites, no matter how incompetent or morally deficient, like George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton, for President. The Clintons play on racial disiveness to keep Hillary in the race, even when she is obviously not able to win. As the pundits note, Hillay cannot win, but she will not quit. Why? Because she believes she is entitled to the highest office on this planet. We immigrant Americans play by the rules, we work hard for all we get, we do not play race or gender cards, and we stay faithful to our families. Hillary's lies, Bill's sex affairs, Hillary's politics of personal destruction--those are the kinds of tyrannical dirty politics we sought to left behind us when we came to our beloved republic. All American citizens, white, black, Native, Hispanic, Asian American, must unite to help turn the page to a more perfect union.
Posted by: shirlin | April 24, 2008 at 10:44 PM
I have to sit back and laugh at the Obama crazies who insult Hillary and Hillary supporters. YOU NEED US TO VOTE FOR OBAMA IN THE FALL DON'T YOU??? No wonder about 28% to 45% (depending on what state you are in) of Hillary supporters are voting for McCain instead of Obama.
You Obama crazies are doing more, by insulting Hillary and us Hillary supporters, damage to Obama than McCain or Hillary. I am so tired of the Obama crazies' insults I'm voting for McCain and so are a lot of Latinos in Los Angeles.
Posted by: libby | April 26, 2008 at 05:55 AM
Bozama is a LOSER!!
Posted by: Jay. NY,NY | April 26, 2008 at 08:34 AM
Finally, I want to say a word about the basic decency I have seen in Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton continues to throw the Rev. Wright up in his face as part of her mission to keep stoking the fears of White America. Every time she does this I shout at the TV, "Say it, Obama! Say that when she and her husband were having marital difficulties regarding Monica Lewinsky, who did she and Bill bring to the White House for 'spiritual counseling?' THE REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT!"
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=225
Posted by: Seymour W. Butts | April 26, 2008 at 08:51 AM