In today's pages: MSM self-loathing and Hillary hate
Columnist Rosa Brooks plays Hillary Clinton:
Thank you, Pennsylvania! What an incredible margin of victory you gave me! Ten percentage points over Barack Obama. Count 'em! Ten!
All right, 9.2 points if you insist on actually counting. But they said I had to win by double digits to keep my campaign alive, and I think 9.2 points counts as double digits. And I am alive! And kicking! And punching and biting and kneeing my opponent in the groin!
Contributing editor Arianna Huffington says only a media filled with self-loathing could hire the likes of former Bush rep Tony Snow. USC emeritus professor Robert E. Tranquada argues for an independent authority to oversea L.A. county health services. And columnist Patt Morrison reveals what she and other Angelenos would do with the city budget if they had their way. (Coffee poured by the mayor at the Getty House Bed and Breakfast, anyone?)
The editorial board praises three African countries that stopped a Chinese arms shipment to Zimbabwe, looks to a 1983 report on education for present-day advice, and looks beyond the Democratic primary in Pennsylvania:
The Democratic race only seems interminable; there will be a winner, and he or she will reconcile with the loser and call for party unity. If Republicans can withstand the abrupt alliance of Sen. John McCain and Mitt Romney, why shouldn't Democrats be united by an enthusiastic endorsement of Clinton by Obama, or vice versa? After all, for all the attacks, the two Democrats aren't far apart on policy.
On the letters page, readers take on the race, as well. Valley Village's Larry Margo has this to say to Clinton-bashers: "Quick! Stop her! Force her out before she wins again!"
There is nothing on this planet that would make me want Hillary Clinton or Obama for President of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Nothing Hillary can paint herself "CENTER" of all of her far left issues all she wants and nothing she says or does will make me walk a line in her direction. (Obama? NO WAY! He has far too many questionable people on his TEAM. Wonder if he'd have found some "staffers jobs" for his REV. and his SLUM_LORD PAL Rezko to be on his team inside OUR White house? We have more than enough corruption in the world, let's not push it. Here's some more...
( http://noelwaters.blogspot.com ) And that web site is just about ONE CITY official.
Posted by: Mrs. Snerdly | June 22, 2008 at 03:29 PM
Finally, I want to say a word about the basic decency I have seen in Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton continues to throw the Rev. Wright up in his face as part of her mission to keep stoking the fears of White America. Every time she does this I shout at the TV, "Say it, Obama! Say that when she and her husband were having marital difficulties regarding Monica Lewinsky, who did she and Bill bring to the White House for 'spiritual counseling?' THE REVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT!"
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=225
Posted by: Seymour W. Butts | April 26, 2008 at 08:51 AM
Bozama is a LOSER!!
Posted by: Jay. NY,NY | April 26, 2008 at 08:34 AM
I have to sit back and laugh at the Obama crazies who insult Hillary and Hillary supporters. YOU NEED US TO VOTE FOR OBAMA IN THE FALL DON'T YOU??? No wonder about 28% to 45% (depending on what state you are in) of Hillary supporters are voting for McCain instead of Obama.
You Obama crazies are doing more, by insulting Hillary and us Hillary supporters, damage to Obama than McCain or Hillary. I am so tired of the Obama crazies' insults I'm voting for McCain and so are a lot of Latinos in Los Angeles.
Posted by: libby | April 26, 2008 at 05:55 AM
The Clintons are obviously the attack dogs, having "fun" as Hillary calls her negative campaign. To spin it and to attack Obama for being negative is disingenous and deceitful. To call the Clintons on their attacks is to be then criticized for being negative! Please! Give the American voters a break--we are not as dumb as Hillary would like us to be. An Asian American senior citizen feminist, I deeply appreciate it when American citizens rally around support to appeal to our better angels as a nation. The Clinton dynastic sense of entitlement is against everything we more recent immigrants believe and hold dear. Instead of combating racism in the US, the Clintons have been saying that Obama is not electable because of his race. This implies that as a nation we are doomed to electing whites, no matter how incompetent or morally deficient, like George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton, for President. The Clintons play on racial disiveness to keep Hillary in the race, even when she is obviously not able to win. As the pundits note, Hillay cannot win, but she will not quit. Why? Because she believes she is entitled to the highest office on this planet. We immigrant Americans play by the rules, we work hard for all we get, we do not play race or gender cards, and we stay faithful to our families. Hillary's lies, Bill's sex affairs, Hillary's politics of personal destruction--those are the kinds of tyrannical dirty politics we sought to left behind us when we came to our beloved republic. All American citizens, white, black, Native, Hispanic, Asian American, must unite to help turn the page to a more perfect union.
Posted by: shirlin | April 24, 2008 at 10:44 PM
It was no surprise that a state full of people who have been waiting for years for the factory jobs to come back would vote for Hillary. PA folks state they are sooooo concerned about their economic situation BUT continue to stay in PA instead of move to another state for more economic prosperity. Essentially Pennsylvania is full of people that make loser decisions in all apsects of their life. Pennsylvania picked the loser and they know it. Even the exit polling showed that the majority thought Obama would win the nomination even though they voted for Clinton.
Posted by: azguy | April 24, 2008 at 06:40 PM
Who is Charles Talaros? (Is it Bill?) He has written the same lies about Obama on every newspaper blog. Bill, you're going to need a new alias. We're on to you.
The Clintons have been in bed with more thugs and criminals than we can count.
Obama is the man who can unite our country. Hilary will continue to follow the Bush/Rove/Cheney politics of divisiveness.
Posted by: Martha | April 24, 2008 at 03:05 PM
Yeah, Charles Talaros, that Hillary Clinton sure is a role model for children herself. If you ignore Whitewater, Travelgate, who killed Mr. Vince Foster questions, Filegate, and "Stand by your man".
She's a GREAT example for all the little children with the last name of Clinton and Bush that might want to run for president some day and a wonderful example for those who like to lie, cheat, and miss-add their way to the top!
Posted by: TruthTeller | April 24, 2008 at 02:37 PM
It amazes me how women can vote for Hitlery. I hope my wife votes for her, because then it means she thinks it's ok to have an affair. She told Obama a minister is a personnel choice, well is the person who choose to stay married to also a personnel choice? I can understand why uneducated white men are voting for her. They admire a women who can stay married to a liar and a cheater.
Posted by: Tom | April 24, 2008 at 02:20 PM
People who hate Obama were just looking for excuses to justify their hate. You know who you are and most importantly you know it does not matter if it was Wright, Michelle, his daughters or a simple word like bitter. You would never cast your vote for a black man. So stop pretending like Wright is makes a difference.
Posted by: ymaxoneil | April 24, 2008 at 01:59 PM
I am a white female age 47 - totally an all america girl raised in California and I TOTALLY support Obama. I have no idea why Hillary is still hanging on. She was overall the supposed candidate to take this race and look what happened.
She wasn't expecting such a formidable and challenging and logical and likeable opponent.
HE was the underdog - not HIllary!
I do admire her determination, but I hope it is not "at all costs."
Posted by: Erika | April 24, 2008 at 01:56 PM
Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama are both excellent candidates for President. Unfortunately, only one can be President (this time around). As Mrs. Clinton developed her campaign team and network over the past few years, she looked invinceable. As such, she choose to remain "above the fray" during her early interactions with the other candidates, waiting for her ordination. A funny thing happened along the way. Mr. Obama developed a remarkable grass roots campaign that connected with many voters. Mrs. Clinton and her team scrambled to understand what had happened. Once they realized that they were in a downward spiral, desperation set in. Now, instead of focusing on issues, Mrs. Clinton and her proxies are doing everything in their power to destroy Mr. Obama's reputation. This Rovian method of operation helped put Mr. Bush in the White House over the last two election cycles. Enough already! Let's not stoop to this level. Let's keep the debate and discussion on issues that are relevant. Mrs. Clinton must be credited for her tenacity. However, one should not confuse tenacity with petty, personal attacks. Moreover, she should not be allowed to change the rules that all demo candidates agreed to in not participating in Michigan and Florida. Mr. Obama and she both PLEDGED not to participate in those primaries. If after the smoke clears, Mr. Obama is leading in states, popular vote, and pledged delegates, he should be the Democratic Party's candidate. The same holds true for Mrs. Clinton. If, through some bizzare superdelegate meltdown, the candidate holding the lead in states, delegates, and votes, is not selected, then I, and many others, will wonder why we voted in the first place. I will be hard pressed to support the Democratic Candidate.
Posted by: jrt | April 24, 2008 at 01:41 PM
Barack Obama will WIN against John McCain.
Hillary needs to get out of the race.
She is a SPOILER, JEALOUS and DESPERATE!
BARACK OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!
I am a white woman and feel this race shouldn't be about race or gender.
God Bless,
Michelle
Posted by: Michelle | April 24, 2008 at 01:38 PM
"obamamania" = typical Hillary campaign tactic. Can you not give us a single reason to vote FOR Hillary, or is negative spin on Obama all she's got to offer??? Also, please stop cut 'n pasting that same tripe on every campaign story you come across, that horse has been beat to death already... plus the only people ignorant enough to fall for it are probably voting for Hilldawgs anyway... ruf, ruf!
Posted by: Mat Randall | April 24, 2008 at 01:36 PM
Charles Talaros, thanks for telling such an obviously ridiculous lie that not even the most biased, intelligence-challenged reader would dream of believing it. You say he gave her the finger a week ago on national television? Give me a break. Aside from the fact that it's not in his character, it would have been the biggest story, the most-shown picture, in years. Yet somehow I haven't heard a thing about it until now. Yeah, that seems logical. The other members of whatever campaign you're rooting for must really be proud of you.
Posted by: DoTheMath | April 24, 2008 at 01:26 PM
Who is running these Clinton smearsters who manage to pollute every comments section of every major news website within minutes?
You're giving your candidate a bad name. Your mastery of the facts is about on par with a chain letter.
Posted by: Dorris Day | April 24, 2008 at 01:20 PM
obamamania said:
Obama is our Savior. Obama, Ayers, and Reverend Wright are Right! God D*** america! The stupid, bitter, racist "typical white people" of pennsylvania voted for clinton. How disgusting. They ignored their opportunity to redeem themselves for their racist past - slavery - and finally make Michelle proud. How sad. Please no hater responses, but typical white people, please stop buying guns you biiter small town hicks, and save it for my reparations check! Obama ''08, Repartions Check, ''09!
Here is what I have to say to you, obamamania.
You sound more racist than any white person I know. What do I have to redeem myself for? I have never made a racist comment, never had a slave, never discriminated against anyone because of their race or any other reason. So what is it that I has 1/2 white person ever done to you. I as part Native American could be racist toward whites about taking our land and killing hundreds of thousands of us in their quest for freedom, but I am not. These heinous crimes were not committed by me, my parents, or even my grandparents. So why are you condemning all whites for something that was over 100 years ago. Yes, there has still be discrimination against blacks and other minority races, but that was not committed by all whites not even the majority of whites in the last 20 years or so. There has been a lot of horrifying, disgusting things happen to minorities in this country since its founding in 1776, but holding on to hate for things that happened hundreds of years ago or even 40 years ago is ludicrous. You need to seek help to deal with your issues. It is absurd to blame every white person in America for these wrongs. If something has happened to you personally, the people you should hate are the specific people that have wronged you. Despite research depicting that African-American males are more likely to commit a violent crime than a white male, I cannot look at every black male and say he is a criminal or will become one. It is insane. Let go of your prejudice and move on. Furthermore, if you hate America so much, LEAVE!!!!
Posted by: robandphe | April 24, 2008 at 01:15 PM
It is fine to me that Sen. Clinton can fiercely fight her primary election until June, but in mathematical numbers pertaining to number of delegates, states and popular votes won by Sen. Omaba, it is impossible for her to enable to catch up with in relation to remaining primary election states. If she becomes a party nominee, my vote will go to Sen. McCain period.
Cheer Obama 08
Posted by: Christopher Xaphakdy | April 24, 2008 at 01:15 PM
A year ago I saw Hillary and Barak as neck and neck, and generally in a positive light, in terms of exorcising the nation beginning in January from a maddening level of Republican corruption...a corruption my friends, family and peers did not imagine possible in our lifetimes.
How this has changed: I voted for Bill Clinton twice. But now I see the Bill and Hillary, whom Republicans learned to hate, in such cynicism and deceit in their electioneering that all we could ever hope for in the fall is a Speed Boat marathon in both directions and an electorate compelled to stay home in November just our of revulsion.
I'm a white guy, raised in a staunchly Republican born-again, white-bread region. These people, if they're over 35, and much akin to PA's "Alabama in the Middle" do not trust blacks period…it’s unthinkable if over 50! Even when their obsession with segregation is not in their minds, it is their lifelong emotional and physical reflex. Look at the mid-American landscape where we drive umpteen thousands of miles a year to exurbs to stay away from those “other” people. Rarely do the older white folk have friends anywhere in their private lives who are not simply their ethnic twins. God help us we should learn something new from a those with a new perspective.
My view of this world was turned upside down by an African American roommate at a Big Ten school year back, and clearly one of the finest persons in the entire campus dormitory. Subsequently, I've made it a point in my life to embrace those who are not just like me. Maybe it is not always easy and comfortable to see through genetic happenstance to the heart of the individual human being.
But, it makes life infinitely more interesting and invigorating, and every year it's more apparent that hiding from one another as do these Middle America, Silent Majority, Normal Rockwell, head-in-the-sand dinosaurs will take down the country, economy, and Earth itself for the momentary pretense of “no change.” Let’s remember that all living things change gradually and incessantly as long as they live…in nature “no change” really means death.
Furthermore, I know of many folks in their 70s and 80s who were abused children in the 1920s and 30s, so let's not kid ourselves about that imaginary Rockwellian past. It was good in many ways and awful in others, so let's take the good and remember to build on it, rather than park our brains for eternity, because we won the big war with bigger bombs and ONLY WE had factories in the 50s.
Getting back to Barak, he offends Middle America's need for constant and perfect sameness. It's identity politics to the extreme in a time when were just are not all the same anymore, even on the surface. Meanwhile, Hillary and McSame will be selling their souls and our futures to billionaires in the Hamptons and Houston, but always with the sales pitch that they are hunting and kickin' back beers with ma and pa down on the farm.
Hello America, Jeffersonian democracy will not endure on his trajectory. Let's be bigger than our cushy egos and greed this time and elect a brilliant man who is not the mirror image of our fearful narcissism, to which Hillary and McSame will pander with guns and beers in hand.
Posted by: Steve M | April 24, 2008 at 01:12 PM
I think my ancestors already made up for America's "sin" of racism. It was called the civil war. How can we not recognize the sacrifices "white" America made during this time. the soldiers fought against their brothers and the families suffered to right a wrong. So to Obamamania.. I don't owe you or barack anything. You like to name call behind your computer. I bet you keep your mouth closed in public for fear of getting knocked the f*&% out. I can't really blame you though, It's what Barack "The Hack" has been doing since the beginning. Don't be bitter now. If he wins the nomination, you'll have a chance to be bitter for four more years cupcake.
Posted by: Mike Roberts | April 24, 2008 at 01:11 PM
"When the power of love is stronger than the love of power there will be peace."
-Anne Frank exhibit? Perhaps.
try - Jimi Hendrix
Posted by: Jay Sullivan | April 24, 2008 at 01:11 PM
Please folks! Let's look at what Hillary's "stretching" the truth on now. Now she's claiming to have the popular vote? What? Well, she's including Floriday and Michigan where all Democrats agreed would not be counted. AND, she's including winning Michigan where Obama's name wasn't even on the ballet! And, that's assuming he gets NO delegates for what he would win (since she thinks she'd win it). Hillary Clinton is as corrupt as they come. She's AGAIN lying to the public. I'm sorry but I agree with the person that posted the people of Pennsylvania were dupped! They need to "THINK" about who they vote for more closely. Oh..by the way the person that posted the comment about Ayers and Obama....Bill Clinton pardoned 2 people from that group. And, did you know that way back when...Ayers was (granted doing it the wrong way) but was protesting the war in Vietnam? He cared about our troops! Just need to point out how important it is to see things in perspective. OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Kim Jensen | April 24, 2008 at 01:10 PM
Yeah all those years of Hillary's "experience" needed to stop those 7 years of ''lies" by Republicans. She's done such a good job up to this point doing nothing and that's considered "experience". Wow, I'll take my chances with someone with new ideas that gives even a possibility of changing the status quo "experienced" Clinton has helped propogate. Obama '08 to end the Bush-Clinton monarchy.
Posted by: Chris | April 24, 2008 at 01:10 PM
TO OBAMAMANIAC: Not ALL Pennsylvanians voted for Clinton -- we're not stupid! 45.4% of us voted for Senator Obama, because we are just as fed up with the politics-as-usual crowd as you are. And not all of us "ignored their opportunity to redeem themselves for their racist past - slavery" . Yes -- some of us white, working-class women voted for Obama. Among my friends the issue that matters is "morals," and frankly, we don't think the Clintons have any. We convinced as many of our friends and family as possible to vote for Obama, too, and we think we did a fairly good job, since Senator Obama picked up 77 more delagates, only 4 less than Mrs. Clinton. I think Obamamaniac needs to examine himself as far as "racism" goes - since his comments scream "BIGOT" -- and YES - a black person CAN be racist - the same as a person who discriminates against those of other "colors." Senator Obama seems to be pushing for unity among Americans - can't you follow his example?
Posted by: Sharan | April 24, 2008 at 01:09 PM
There is a segment of the African American population that is just as dangerous and extreme as any white supremacist group that exists. The one thing this ignorance is doing is relieving all "white people" of any guilt voting. If this is the way the African American population behave, they will riot whether he wins or not. He can't do everything he promises, or they take for granted will materialize with a black president. When their "utopia" doesn't materialize they will riot anyway.
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Posted by: Lynn1951 | April 24, 2008 at 01:09 PM