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Sore Future Losers in the Keystone State

Hey there, Pennsylvania Democrats: are you sure you're old enough to vote? Because some of you are acting like two-year-olds.

A Franklin & Marshall College poll has found that if Barack Obama loses wins* the nomination, 20% 19% of Hillary Clinton voters — at least in Pennsylvania — say they'll vote for John McCain on election day. Ditto Clinton supporters — an Obama nomination would send 20% of them to the R column, and to John McCain.

For these petulant Democratic voters, it appears it's about personality over policy after all.  They'll choose four more years of Republican appointments of judges, Republican policies in the Iraq war, in environmental matters, in abortion and family planning programs, and tax cuts for the already prosperous ... all this over a Democratic fiscal and social and war agenda.

Nice work, people. If you want to cast a protest vote, why not choose Ralph Nader? This isn't like Florida 2000, where voters were confused by the ballot.  If McCain wins as a consequence of this ''my way or the highway'' sulking, Democrats will know who they have to blame: one another.

* Thanks to commenter Lorie for the correction.

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"if Barack Obama loses the nomination, 20% of Hillary Clinton voters -- at least in Pennsylvania -- say they'll vote for John McCain on election day"

That statement makes no sense. If Obama loses the nomination, then Hillary wins the nomination, so why would 20% of Hillary supporters vote for McCain if she is on the ballot?

Third grade statement?

It's not just Pennsylvania Dems...

Half the party is (the core, true blue dem part, not the elite youth, wealthy, Ph.d newbies to voting types) dragging its feet, as Obama tries to pull us towards a cliff in November.

Morality is not blind idolation; party loyalty has nothing on America-loyalty, and I do not considered G-D America to be very strong unity builder.

So much for the great uniter.

-"cigar chomping cracker" as per Jeremiah Wright

Let's keep this simple. This isn’t about being petulant or a sore loser. For some voters, myself included, electing a Democrat is not the be all and end all. The reason I’m supporting Hillary is that every time I hear her talk about the issues I know she gets it. This isn’t someone that just comes prepared to give a good speech or a good debate performance; this is someone who comes prepared to be President. And that is a critical difference for me. She does not only have a command of the issues, but she gets it. This election is not about making sure the Democrats get back into power, it is about electing the person who is the best choice and can do the best job. There are very serious issues confronting our nation and our world. For all of the attempts to prop up Obama’s candidacy (with the media’s blessing), this is a candidate who does not belong on a national stage running for President. His resume and experience are paper thin. And with his endless miscues, misstatements, reversals, backtracking, contradictions, and out right inaccuracies, it leaves many unconvinced that he has what it takes at this crucial time. Why would I entrust my vote to someone who doesn’t inspire or instill faith in me that he can get the job done?

This is absolutely true. I am absolutely, positively, no Hillary fan. Cannot emphasize that enough and after defending the Clintons for eight very long years, I have no energy to do it again. Without question, I support Barack Obama with the highest possible enthusiasm.

That said, to see this war go on and on, to see these sweet young faces dying because of hubris, to hear more Bin Laden messages made public while the country destroys its own economy for an oil rich country and endless tax cuts for the wealthy. No, I would nauseatingly vote for Clinton. I would not support or defend all the scandals that would inevitably come their way but I would not support the Republican administration. We all have to say ENOUGH.

I need an experienced leader who understands you do not associate with a church that gives a lifetime achievement award to Louis Farrakhan, and a Pastor who yells hate and the N word in front of children on Christmas.

I need an experienced leader who does not make his Pastor who wants to end Israel and call for an All Arab conference in his first year while he also puts up documents celebrating Hamas on his website-- and put said Pastor in his campaign in a leadership role.

Simply put, Obama is not experienced enough, nor is he trustworthy enough to be President. We have no reason to believe that his choice of judges or his decisions in Iraq would be good for the country. His 20 year spiritual mentor said terrorism was a justifiable and acceptable tactic, even if it was September 11th!

Senator Obama is going to appease the Right on the choices of judges anyway, he can't win with his small coalition of elitist Democrats, and the sympathies of his minister and himself (anybody heard of Obama and Edward Said) lie with Radical Islam. HOW could we even allow him to accidentally make his way into the Oval Office?

Sorry, but what regular Democrats have been learning about Obama lately is TERRIFYING. Most of us thought the rumors about his church weren't true. They're BEYOND true. Good, God. Why wasn't the press doing it's job? How can you still be apologizing for asking him questions, and still refuse to do it? Investigate and ask some questions. We know Hillary Clinton and John McCain, good bad and indifferent. Obama is the unknown, so ask some questions and do some investigating.

It's like Iraq all over again. The fearful press is abdicating it's responsibilties and look what we were kept from learning? Hamas! The man's 20 year spiritual mentor supports Hamas!

Outside the media and the far Left, borderline Communistic fanatics in our Party who want to end corporations and see American power become diluted and apologetic, and appease to dictators and pretend that experience is unimportant, millions of Democrats are not going to go down that road.

I'm praying for Hillary Clinton. She is socially progressive and strong on American defense. She'd protect this country but also work her damndest to keep people from losing their homes.

But Obama-- has actual ties to numerous people who want to end Amercian power? That's CRAZY! The media wants to push this disaster onto our country? Sorry, John McCain never put a person who approves of Hamas as an advisor to him on foreign affairs. He's a reasonable second choice if the media and Democratic Party wants to put up an unacceptable option like Senator Obama.

And by the way--------------apologize to the victims of September 11th on behalf of your crazy pastor, why don't you? Where is your decency? How could it not occur to you to apologize to the many people your Audacity of Hope preacher insulted.

I see a great inconsistency in Obama's stance with the black community. He has come out against the most disenfranchised blacks in the world—the black embryo. How can you love blacks and favor without the slightest tinge of compassion the abortion of a black fetus? Does he know that the black heart begins to beat at the 18th to 25th day from conception? Does he know that a black embryo has its own brain waves at 40 days? Does he know that that black child has its own fingerprints and has fully functioning body systems at 11 to 12 weeks? How many black babies will never get a chance to run for president because thinking like Obama's got them killed? A presidential candidate should care for all of those in his country — especially the most innocent and defenseless of all, the fetus.

Hey there, name-calling isn't going to convince anyone to vote for your candidate. Neither is ordering people to toe a party line. Some voters cannot afford the luxury of being partisan no matter what.

Obama won "Red States" because republican strategy involves G.O.P. crossover voting to take out Clinton, marketing newcomer Obama.

Evidence of a covert campaign to undermine the presidential primaries is rife, so it's curious that the Democractic Party and even some within the G.O.P. have ignored the actual elephant in the room this year. That would be Karl Rove. Long accused of rigging the two previous presidential elections, this master of deceit would have us believe that he's gone off to sit in a corner and write op-eds.

Not so. According to an article in Time magazine published last November, Republicans have been organized in several states to throw their weight behind Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic rival of Hillary Clinton. At least three former fundraisers for President Bush flushed his coffers with cash early on in the race, something the deep pockets had not done for any candidate in their own party. With receipts topping $100 million in 2007, the first-term Illinois senator broke the record for contributions. It was a remarkable feat, considering that most Americans had not even heard of him before 2005.

The Time article went on to explain that rank and file Republicans were switching parties this spring to vote for Obama in the Democratic primaries. Though not mentioned in the piece, a group called Republicans for Obama formed in 2006 to expedite the strategy, and the Obama campaign launched its own "Be a Democrat For a Day" campaign in 2007. (An official video distributed in in Florida, Nevada and Vermont explains how this legal form of vote stacking is accomplished .) Many states have open primaries, allowing citizens to vote for any candidate, regardless of their party affiliation. In Nebraska, the mayor of Omaha publicly rallied Republicans to caucus for Obama on February 9th. The tactic, called crossover voting, appears to be part of a Rove-coordinated effort to deprive Clinton of the nomination. Even with the full compliment of election-scamming tools available to him - phone bank sabotage, fake polling data, swiftboating, waitlisting, electronic voting equipment, Norman Hsu, etc. - Rove would be hard pressed to defeat Clinton in November, since she's popular nationwide and has promised an immediate troop withdrawal from Iraq. If the contest isn't close, the vote-rigging won't matter. Several influential Republicans admit as much in a February 11th story for Politico.

If, on the other hand, Obama wins the nomination (or even the VP spot), Rove's prospects brighten considerably. Largely unvetted by the media, the senator carries considerable baggage from his stint as a state legislator, particularly his 17-year relationship with Chicago slumlord Tony Rezko. So far, the mainstream press has paid lip service to the particulars of Obama's past and instead portrays him as a fresh new face in American politics. The author of the Time article, for instance, offered the following explanation to account for the bizarre love affair G.O.P. voters say they're having with an African American senator on the other side of the aisle. "It seems a lot of Republicans took to heart Obama's statement in his rousing speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention that 'there is not a liberal America and a conservative America — there is the United States of America.'"

Is he kidding? The conservative publication National Journal claims Obama's voting record is the most liberal in Washington, even moreso than Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich.
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It's not about personality. It's about character and experience. Obama has neither. This past week with the Wright controvery showed even more how Obama is a facade. He didn't have the courage for 20 years to stand up for racism. But acted like the great god of all things racially healing. I'm a Clinton supporter in Fla, who has NEVER voted republican, and who will vote McCain if Obama is the nominee. My friends and family can hardl believe. I don't think he's fit and I'd trust McCain more. Also by not standing up and being man here in Florida and getting behind a revote he was once again weak. He's a weak candiate and I think McCain would bury him.

Hillary Clinton is a bold face liar, period !

How can you mistakenly say you landed in a war zone and dogged bullets, so on a so forth when it never happened.

My god !! thats about as big and bold of a lie that a person could tell. If she lies about things like that, can she ever be believed about anything !

Answer: NO !!!!!

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