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Meyers talking about Obama gets people talking about Meyers

Michael Meyers recent Blowback on Barack Obama's "More Perfect Union" speech continues to draw fire, both friendly and unfriendly. Our letters-to-the-editor mailbag is overflowing. Even Flaubert sent in some mots justes:

Hello,

Talk about missing the point, i think your comments are way off base and insulting to many folks who "herd" a different postive message.

Thank you
Ed Faubert


Meyers is right. Obama blew it. As a presidential candidate, his speech did miss the mark and by that measure proves he is a man whose depth is too shallow to be president. He is obviously captured in the socio/political black bigotry exemplied by Wright that seeks crutches and excuses while condeming America. As a "genetic Republican" I believe it will be a great crime if Obama and not Clinton is the Democrats standard barrier. That action places the country at risk considering the possibility that he could be elected.

Otis Page 
Arroyo Grande


 

Dear Editor:

Mr. Meyer's opinion that Obama Blew It with his speech on race is correct.  Mr Meyers should be a speech writer for Obama.  But, then Obama doesn't believe in his own message because he never walked the talk.  Our culture is so enamored by speeches and words, and sermons.  But after all the talk and great phrases, I ask, what has this person done to give credence to his/her words. St. Francis never gave sermons, he just gave living examples of what he believed.  He put flesh to the word.  This is my main gripe with Obama and his fine sounding words.  In scripture there's a phrase by Jesus, " Not all those who say Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom, but those who do the will of My Father".

In Obama's speech he attempts to give moral equivalence to his White Grandmother's fear of blacks and of her saying some inflammatory remarks about Blacks, He goes on to say, should I then renounce my Grandmother.

To try and make his Grandmother's remarks the moral equivalent with Pastor's Wright is false.  The Pastor was speaking in church publicly to many people. His Grandmother was speaking to him privately.  This is typical of a man with no experience to back up his fine words, and then resorts to weak arguments to make his point.

So, Mr Meyer, you wished he could have said the things you offered in your column. But Obama could never do that because he doesn't believe it.  Does it strike anyone that the two themes of Obama's message -- 1. Time for a Change, and 2. Coming together as One -- have been used time and time again as political rhetoric. Every new administration runs on Change. The coming together as One is nothing but a slogan. All that is needed is bipartisanship and/or a veto congress to get things done.

Obama's one claim of experience is as a Community Organizer. You have to hand it to him, he's taken this one experience and his oratory and will almost become President of the U.S.  One last thing Senator Kerry made a brilliant statement today.  He said, I'm paraphrasing now, Obama can unite the country because he is Black and will encourage the moderate muslims because he is black.  Talk about playing the Race Card and why Senator Kerry has endorsed Obama.  This alone should make the uncommitted Super Delegates think twice before endorsing Obama.

Yes, Mr Meyers,  Obama Blew it. 

John L Cerrato
Rockville Centre, NY


Not since Niall Ferguson's response to Harold Pinter's Nobel Acceptance Speech, that you published in December 2005 (you published the response, not the speech), have I read a more gross misrepresentation and misinterpretaion of a person's words. Meyers cherry-picks the speech Obama delivered, and seems to intentionally miscontrue Obama's words in an apparent attempt to mislead and misinform the newspaper-reading public.  As I did in 2005 in regard to the Ferguson article, I plead with your readers to go straight to the source - read or view the speech before judging it, do not rely on a misleading criticism.  And I request that the latimes editorial staff make some effort to hold their guest writers to at least a minimal degree of accountability.  Even op-ed pieces need to be held accountable or else they become mere propaganda.

joe stanford
venice


Letter to the editor;

Michael Meyers writes (“Obama blew it,” Los Angeles Times, March 20, 2008), “We and our leaders -- especially our candidates for the highest office in the land -- must repudiate all forms of racial idiocy and sexism, and be judged by whether we still belong to exclusionary or hateful groups.”  Barack Obama did, but apparently it was not forecuflle enough to suit Meyers---Obama neither being black enough, nor forceful enough, not Uncle Tom enough?

On NPR “Talk of the Nation” Meyers criticized Obama, suggesting that he nuanced the displays of bigotry made by his minister.  I did not think that Obama did---at least not as much as Myers has nuanced his brave new attacks of racial bigotry---Meyers ignores the blatantly bigoted comments on right-wing talk radio  and Fox, and finds fault with a guy the is struggling to make a difference. 

“In my considered judgment,” when all is said in done, Barack Obama will have made more of a difference in advancing better race relations by simply running for the presidency than Michael Meyers will do by shooting off his “considerate” mouth for the rest of his life.  Who the hell needs nuance when bigots have someone like Meyers giving them cover from which to spread their attacks on Obama or “racial idiocy?”

Although Meyers divulged that he is black and that he had heroically canceled his membership in 100 Black Men of America Inc., I have no reason to nuance my own position by divulging the color of my skin.  Does Meyers know when he will appear on Bill O'Reilly’s no spin zone?

Sam Osborne
West Branch


Regarding your "Obama blew It" article.  I believe that Obama was saying what you profess, but he understands that unless we acknowledge the history first we cannot understand the present, and then move on to the future.  I have heard so many say he should have just disowned his pastor.  Had he always just run away, or if he had disassociated himself with everyone who carries the baggage his pastor does, he could never have been in the position of understanding he is now to be able to lead us forward.  His speech was just the first step...together we will get where you are.  It is a journey worth the pain...and as I have emailed to Bill Press, Peter King, Pat Buchanan, Joe Scarborough and Tucker Carlson, I would like you to read it too.  Thank you.

Regarding your call for Barack Obama to disown his pastor.  I refer you to Luke 6:37 "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not and ye shall not be condemned: forgive and ye shall be forgiven:"  Perhaps Obama is following those words from Jesus!  John 8:7 He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone.  Perhaps you missed the sermons where these words were spoken? 

Jim and Ginny

Comments

Reading such misinterpretations of Obama's speech, such limited understanding of issues and ideas by both Meyers and other readers, makes one weep for the low level of education of so many people in America. At least one has to attribute such distortion of his speech to ignorance; otherwise, you have to assume they are simply evil.

Kristine Johanson

Spot-on. Obama’s existential failure was that he sided with his personal history, his relationship with Pastor Wright, ignoring the broader meaning of Wright’s damnation and rhetoric: 9/11, AIDS, War, the Middle East, Israel. Obama’s inability to see the bigger picture is fatale because the people who got evaporated into dust in 9/11 weren’t Black or White, or Hispanic. They were humans, Americans—at the most cynical; his voters. Obama’s lack of vision on this fundamental point cannot be reconciled. Race is important but not more important if you are facing a window on some tall, giant building and see a giant 747 coming on to you. No matter how Obama wishes to spin this—he can not.

I am not sure I quite understand what is happening. It seems that we live in two worlds. Those who support Obama heard an inspirational oratory, and those who don't heard some pretty lame excuses from Obama on why Reverent Wright was ... well, right to have such animosity (not in those words, but if they were wrong, he probably wouldn't have spent so much time providing context).

In America, it is more unlikely for a woman to be elected President. There is no discussion about this. Domestic violence, inequality in pay, the glass ceiling--all of these exist for women. And women are half the population. Yet we choose to remain silent on this issue.

In America, it is practically impossible to elect a non-Christian to the Presidency. Yet again, we fail to discuss the bias.

Mr. Barack Obama's failure is not in his refusal to disassociate himself with Reverend Wright's Church. It is his failure to accept his lapse in judgment, in admitting error, because his entire campaign is based on his superior judgment over Ms. Clinton.

And finally, where he ultimately fails, is that he feels healing is only a matter of getting the different races together, without regard to sex and religion, and perhaps most importantly, allowing his followers to trash anybody who disagrees with him, and yet maintaining a higher than thou persona throughout the campaign.

I am disappointed, because he had a chance to do so much more.

As a man of colour I think you right but you fail to understand that we as a nation isn´t there yet. I would be more than happy to live in a society that didnt judge by the color of my skin or hair. But therein lies the problem, we have never in my lifetimes had a public official at the highest level talk about this issue. For you to throw Obama under the bus when he is trying to bridge this divide is so wrong. Let me tell you why Mr. Myers. This country is so divided regarding race that a understanding must happen before we can recoincile. We need to take one step forward and let the rest of the nation catch up with the younger generation that is colourblind. To take seven step ahead and talk about something that doesnt get the picture of the whole society is to wander in nomans land were many are afraid to follow.

One thing more, those that agree with you are the ones and the few that uses the propaganda about wright and trowing his grandma under the bus. It seems strange that your message resonates with these people, but that shows you that your view(which is a good point) is so far away in their mindset that you surely must understand that we need to take a step in the right direction and thats what Obama offered.
And perhaps the next President can take the next one. But the most important thing is that we hava politicians that helps rather than obstruct a united america and who other than Obama is offering to at least try. Do you se this with the other candidates and out of that standpoint should you be happy that he taking a step in the right direction?

In 1962, my hometown Lynwood, was named All-American City by Look magazine. In those days, Lynwood took pride in being an all-white city. The residents and the local realtors did everything in their power to keep African-Americans for renting or buy housing in Lynwood. I clearly remember going to class the next day and seeing following comment scrawled on the chalkboard,"Lynwood, all-American, all-white. Ha.Ha.Ha." I can't describe the sense of rage, humiliation and shame I felt inside - and yeah, guess what!! I"m white.
In 1964, governor Pat Brown passed a fair housing bill. In the same year the California Real Estate Association launched Proposition 14, a constitutional amendment that would permanently ban fair housing in California. The Los Angeles Times supported Propostion 14. So did George Putnam on the Channell 11 news. I remember seeing a black commentator on Channel 11 trashing both fair housing and the liberals who supported such a measure. The commentator was Black Muslim who obviously felt that fair housing threatened his own agenda of hatred. When I saw African American commentators on Sean Hannity trashing Obama for his association with Rev. Wright, I got an instant sense of deja vu.*
Ronald Reagan launched his political career by pandering to the whites "disaffected" by the fair housing law. When I read many of the self-righteous comments on this blog, once again I get a sense of deja vu.* Ronald Reagan launched his bid for the presidency in Philadelphia, Mississippi, where three civil rights workers were brutally murdered. This was a blatant attempt to pander to Dixiecrats who would far soonner fly the stars and bars than the stars and stripes.Even today, the core constituency of the Republican party is the hate block. Yet I do not hear any one denouncing politicians, like John McCain, for invoking the name of Ronald Reagan over and over again. Nor has John McCain repudiated the racist policies of Ronald Reagan, they way that Obama repudiated the statements of Rev. Wright.
Revered Wright served in the military. I don't see Sean Hannity, Jonah Goldberg, or Tucker Carlton quitting their cushy media jobs for combat positions in Afghanistan or Iraq.I'd ask anyone posting a blog on this site to walk a mile in Rev. Wright's shoes. Imagine you had served in the Marines, and were told you could not buy a house or rent an apartment in an all-American city like Lynwood. Imagine you could not eat in a Howard Johnson's restaurant in Virginia, or cast a vote in Mississippi. How would you feel????
When I reflect on that hate-scrawled comment in the classroom some 46 years ago, when I read the hate-filled comments on this blog or the hate-filled comments on right wing radio, I can't help but wonder which era we're living in. Whether Mike Myers or any other right wing dingbat likes it or not, Obama has not only addressed the racial inequities and injustices we're pretending does not exist, but also defined the major issue of this election: a choice between the past and the future. I can only hope and pray that there are enough Americans who feel like me, or agree with the inelegant, but touching words of Paul D, a character in Toni Morrison's novel Beloved: "We've hand more yesterdays than anybody. What we need is a tomorrow." That's precisely what Obama offers. We need the courage to take that step

*(Yeah I know deja requires both an accent aigue and and an accent grave respectively, but my keyboard won't reproduce them

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