Your chance to hurl abuse (or appreciation) at Joel Stein
The notorious JS has a column today telling readers not to bother e-mailing him, because "I don't want to talk to you, I want to talk at you." He does, however, offer this generous opportunity for interaction:
I'm asking my editors to build a page on opinion.latimes.com where, instead of e-mailing me, you can write about how arrogant I am. And maybe on this site, one brave person will write about how I'm right to stand up against this world of false, easy community, where columnists pretend they think their essays are no more valuable than yours, and friendship is a stranger who thanks you for the MySpace add.
So, this is where you come in. What have you always wanted to say to Joel Stein, or his editors? The floor is yours.



Joel Stein is hilarious
What is the big deal?
relax, guys, relax
Posted by: Revned | January 05, 2007 at 02:02 PM
I so agree with Mr. Stein. This just ran in the Las Vegas paper today 1-5-07. I feel the same about cell phones and email. Why must I answer? I am not a Doctor and I am not on call. People all feel like they should be able to reach you whenever they feel like it. If he wants another opinion he will ask for it. When the book you are reading has an ending you don't like do you email the author??
Posted by: PRISVOLD | January 05, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Joel, Joel... You need a quick trip back to NJ to get that LA nonsense OUT of your head. Opinions of others do matter, you cannot be a columnist without the feedback and feelings of those around you. You've thown down the gauntlet and I would hope that your in-box is filled with hedge fund suggestions and Viagra offers.
You should be spanked for this column or at least forced to write a line down receipts at the Edison, NJ Costco on a Saturday afternoon.
Bo
Posted by: BoWildhax | January 05, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Gee, what now to make of the e-mail I recieved a couple of months ago from Joel, saying that he read and appreciated the e-mail rant I sent him? It wasn't even a (completely) standard reply either as he referred to a funny point in the rant that had made him laugh.
I can only conclude that he cares, he really does care!
Posted by: Evil Empire | January 05, 2007 at 12:43 AM
Since Joel Stein does not care about other's opinions of him, he won't read this nice little smackdown:
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2007/01/why_oh_why_cant.html
in which Stein is pretty much revealed as a pop intellectual poseur with zero knowledge of real history. Enjoy.
Posted by: ciocia | January 04, 2007 at 06:56 PM
Joel,
The bad news - I have a problem similar to yours.
The good news – I have found a solution.
My so called friends are constantly sending me emails containing their unsolicited opinions. What makes this a problem is that all my friends are idiots.
Here’s my solution - don’t read their email, just “reply” with your own opinion on the subject. Basically what they’ve done is provide you a perfect opportunity to talk AT them.
Stick with me on this one Joel.
Posted by: shg | January 04, 2007 at 01:59 PM
This is a humor column? Shouldn't it be like, oh, I don't know - funny?
Posted by: Ken | January 04, 2007 at 01:57 PM
Amen, Joel Stein! Everything need not be "interactive" and consumer-driven. Journalists are educated professionals who worked and/or studied to become better at filtering and presenting information than people who don't have any sort of journalistic training.
Journalists spend time thoughtfully breaking down complex events and ideas and plans and reports in order that readers and viewers can digest the information with much less time and effort. Knowledgeable citizens and the free exchange of information are important parts of democracy, and that should interest every American.
Posted by: J. Erickson | January 04, 2007 at 01:38 PM
It wasn't until I read your stupid column that I realized it is possible to email you. Not that I ever email anyone, because I am too stupid to know there's an email address at the bottom. Not that you care.
So "Mr Smarty Pants" how is it you get off using big words like "solipsistic". I'm still trying to pronounce it, let alone figure what the Heck it means. Unless it has something to do with using LipStick. In which case, I shouldn't be reading your column anyway.. By the way, do you seek professional help on a regular basis? If you don't, you might consider trying it...
Well now that I got all that angst (great word and only one syllable - though I'm sure what it means) off my chest I can finish this and get on with my life.
Posted by: Davd Bailey | January 04, 2007 at 11:08 AM
I've edited work from columnists who claim the number of emails they have received in support reflects what the public believes. Boy do they get a shock at election time. Good on you, Joel. Frame your ideas; file your copy on time; enjoy the non-professional part of your life.
Paul Wiggins
Homebush, NSW, Australia
Posted by: Paul Wiggins | January 04, 2007 at 10:28 AM
Come to think of it, I"m going to stop reading Matt Welch.
I really don't think he needs a new younger playmate, botox, a macrobiotic diet, or a trainer named Raul who doubles as a body guard.
Instead, I'll order a hot dog cart to be stationed near his desk. I'll make it so he's covering everything from the dog catcher totals to the Opinion LA blog in relative obscurity. He can get fat, his current amour can tickle him and we'll all be spared another aging journo with a cable show.
Save Matt Welch. Don't read his blog.
Posted by: kanani | January 04, 2007 at 08:02 AM
Traditionally journalists have always written their stuff and have never had to carry on a dialogue with its readers. They went on to other jobs. And who says this dialogue is necessarily a good thing? Haven't we seen enough journos-turned-idealogue, complete with TV show, newspaper column, book deal and a new, younger wife?
If we can save Joel or any other LA Times journo from joining the ranks of the overfed and bloated, we really should. Think of it as our humanitarian duty to save him from a life of senseless diets, botox and the requisite stay at Betty Ford.
Don't write Joel Stein. Get your news sources from lots of places and don't get hung up on what any one person says or thinks.
Posted by: Kanani | January 04, 2007 at 07:57 AM
I don't even know who Joel Stein is. Why would I want to say anything to him?
And I won't be checking this space obsessively for the next two days to see if Joel Stein has replied to this comment.
Posted by: Kathy | January 04, 2007 at 07:53 AM
Your pretend hubris is mediocre.
Posted by: Bobby | January 04, 2007 at 07:42 AM
I can't believe how people are really taking your column personally and vowing never to read it again!
Joel, your column cracked me up. It was well-written, and one can't help but admire your forthrightness and honesty.
That's fine with me if you want to talk at me. Columnists have done that for years, and no one ever complained. Thanks for stirring up our wheels of thought. Keep up the good work!
Posted by: Sheena Oommen | January 04, 2007 at 06:50 AM
I can't believe how people are really taking your column personally and vowing never to read it again!
Joel, your column cracked me up. It was well-written, and one can't help but admire your forthrightness and honesty.
That's fine with me if you want to talk at me. Columnists have done that for years, and no one ever complained. Thanks for stirring up our wheels of thought. Keep up the good work!
Posted by: Sheena Oommen | January 04, 2007 at 06:50 AM
Hi Joel and participants,
I've probably joined this conversation a bit too late but in case anyone is still around...
I think that Joel's role is to provide the public with enough information to start a public conversation about things that matter to us. The news/opinion column is the journo's piece/bit - the rest of the conversation is up to the public. So, what are we discussing here today - the role of the journalist? Or is it the relevance of (news/opinion) blogs to the public conversation? It sometimes sounds as though we are more concerned about whether or not we can get the journo's attention/friendship? I think we should embrace the news blog. We now have a space to share opinions with people that we couldn't ordinarily speak to (without the blog). I'm happy that the journo (Joel) doesn't want to control the conversation (it's enough that he gets to set the agenda with his column). It sounds to me like he wants the conversation to run its own course - what could possibly be wrong with that? Give the guy a break and let’s use this/these spaces to talk amongst ourselves - he'll join the gaggle when he wants to (as we all do).
By the way... you might be interested to know that keyboards are currently tapping this same song across the other side of the world. I'd never have known anything about any of your opinions if Joel hadn't written such an 'interesting' piece ;)
talk is valuable
Posted by: Deb | January 04, 2007 at 06:03 AM
Spot on Joel. We live in a warped society that believes we ALL are worthy of interest. All our opinions are noteworthy. And all our communications should be responded to, or else we have been insulted in the most horrible fashion: we have been deemed insignificant.
Clue to you all: your (and my) opinions are generally insignificant. If you want an interactive venue, find a blog comments page and chat away. But Joel, although I find you a self-absorbed know-it-all, you are a smart ass. And better a smart one than a dumb one. I'll continue to read and be annoyed by you. I'll save my comments for the fish bowl drop at my local lunch counter. At least I might win free lunch for my office that way.
Posted by: Dale Stratton | January 04, 2007 at 04:48 AM
Wait, are there really so few of us who catch sarcasm? Am I really so above average by perceiving that the entire column was tongue-in-cheek at the same time as it was completely serious? God, I must be smarter than I thought.
Posted by: Someone else who is not Joel | January 03, 2007 at 07:58 PM
First of all, let me prevent one major misunderstanding by satying at the outset: I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of the Stein Admiration Society.
That said, I actually enjoyed his column explaining why he will not reply to e-mails. But unlike some who responded, I took his description "talk _at_ you" as somewhat tongue-in-cheek. The column has more logical cohesion when read that way, whether that is what he really meant or not;)
So why did I enjoy it? Because the attitude he criticizes, both implicitly and explicitly, really deserves the criticism. It is NOT genuine dialogue to sound off with your own screed as so many people do. On the contrary: doing such things is FAR more deadly to genuine dialog than refusing to answer, on the grounds that he wants to "talk _at_ you".
Finally, just because he is writing a column, refusing to answer emails, does not even mean he is eschewing dialog. On the contrary: there _is_ such a thing as public dialog, which goes on rather slowly in the mass media, which accept feedback only in more indirect ways. _Good_ journalists, columnists and social commentators have been engaging in this dialog for centuries now. Whether or not Joel is one of these is not a question I am going to tackle right now;) I just want to remind people that is _is_ possible, and _highly_ desirable.
Posted by: Matthew Johnson | January 03, 2007 at 04:42 PM
I know that you don't was to receive e-mails (re; "Have something to say? I don't care."). But, having enjoyed your columns since I discovered them last year, I think that you, Sir, are a genius, a word that I don't toss around lightly (these days, every fringe-dweller is declared a "genius" before a well-deserved slide into oblivion), your writings the equivalent of anything by Noam Chomsky or . . . or. . . my Uncle Fred.
Posted by: james dwyer | January 03, 2007 at 03:33 PM
At least Ryan Fishman the journalist is honest about being a journalist who reports his story from his opinion. Unlike these boneheads who claim to be unbiased. We all have opinions, why lie? As far as looking down at the undereducated, why not just list which races to look down at? Demographics show who is who. There are idiots every-undereducated, overeducated, and just plain edumacated. My Masters doesn't make me much smarter than my co-workers who have their Bachelors.
By the way, Stein is right, don't respond to this because I don't care. Especially from overeducated higher than thou idiots.
Posted by: john friekindoe | January 03, 2007 at 03:00 PM
Joel, you are absolutely right! Thank God someone finally had the brains and the guts to stand up and tell it like it should be. I WANT your opinion. I DON'T want to give you mine - and I don't want to have to read everyone else's. Let them get their own column! I want YOUR insight, YOUR wit and YOUR opinion - that's why I'm reading YOUR column. If I want someone else's opinion, I will read THEIR column. I don't usually contribute feedback like this and I certainly won't email you (I know you won't read it anyway), but maybe someone will read this and tell you and your bosses that people like a columnist that speaks his mind, without fear or favour. So, go for it Joel. Take the hard line. I'll keep reading.
Posted by: Jason Dunn | January 03, 2007 at 02:50 PM
I was starting to think Joel's column is turning lame, but look at the response: over a hundred comments in two days. He should be getting a raise for stirring such controversy & confusion...
Posted by: Teddy Boa | January 03, 2007 at 02:46 PM
Just because the media choosen for display of information has changed, I don't believe the fundamentals of your job (any journalist) have. About time someone (JS) said it. Last time I checked, chat rooms were still around and that was NOT the format for journalists to present their material.
Posted by: Joe | January 03, 2007 at 02:33 PM