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Here's a little slice o' love that the Times' critics and readers have been dishing our way this past week, presented in (mostly) reverse chronological order:

Ken Reich: "Hezbollah Is Controlled by Syria and Iran, Regardless What L.A. Times Says."

Mickey Kaus:

Here's a question: Is [George] Skelton such a fool that he actually believed the Democrats would pass a redistricting reform once they'd defeated Schwarzenegger's? Or was he swayed by a not-so-subtle not-so-subconscious anti-Schwarzenegger bias--perhaps a desire to deny the governor a victory, or to see him humbled, or to please layoff-prone LAT bosses who might entertain those anti-Arnold impulses?

Hugh Hewitt: "For the agenda-'journalists' at the Times, if the Bush Adminsitration is blaming Syria and Iran, Syria and Iran must be blameless."

Mark, at NewsCorpse: "In his most recent op-ed for the Los Angeles Times, Jonah Goldberg demonstrates again what a lousy trade the Times made when they picked up Goldberg in place of Robert Scheer."

Media Matters:

A Los Angeles Times article echoed the claim -- frequently advanced by conservatives -- that special counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald's investigation into the leak of then-CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity "concluded that the disclosure did not violate a federal law protecting the identity of covert operatives." In fact, Fitzgerald has stated that he was unable to determine whether any laws were violated in the leaking of Plame's identity because his investigation was impeded by former vice presidential chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, whom he charged with perjury and obstructing the grand jury investigation.

Patrick Frey:

I am especially interested in the parts [of an interview with Times Editor Dean Baquet] where he claims that what happened to [Michael] Hiltzik was in part a result of the paper’s failure to “push back” effectively (!). That is an odd statement that I hadn’t noticed in Luke [Ford]’s description. Also, he believes that part of the reason for the paper’s declining circulation is “cheap criticism” of the paper. (And he sounds plenty angry when he says it, too!)

This could be the real reason he won’t let me interview him after all: maybe he thinks my blog is an example of the “cheap criticism” that is costing him readers — and that cost him a business columnist. (He didn’t say any of this; I’m speculating here.)

Mary Katharine Ham: "LAT: Beyond Parody."

Rob McMillin:

The world hasn't been subjected to the incompetent typings of Times hack journo Bill Plaschke in over a month, and yet what do we read today but another inane hatchet job on the trade that brought one of the Dodgers' two best pitchers into town. As usual, it's riddled with easily verifiable errors and readily dismissed claims.

Joe McDonnell:

I know I said I wasn’t going to write…but my pal Bill Plaschke has lost his mind. His column on Brad Penny and Paul LoDuca was loony. Would you trade a 34 year old catcher who fades in the second half of every season for a 28 year old ace who throws nearly 100 MPH? I didn’t think so…..

Ernest, at Dodgers Blue Heaven: "Plaschke... You Ding Bat."

Paul Horwitz:

[Erin Aubry] Kaplan writes that these regulations send the message that "[i]f blacks want to have a chance in the increasingly unforgiving corporate world, they will have to shave off their rough edges -- starting with their hair." I suspect she's wrong to say that the corporate world is increasingly unforgiving, especially on questions of appearance. She does raise a valid point about the effects of appearance norms. But does the fact that the regulations she cites (aside from the egregious example of the Louisiana sheriff) come from black institutions complicate the picture?

Jacob Weisberg:

[L]et me depart from the liberal consensus and argue that the New York Times, while acting in good faith, made the wrong call by printing the SWIFT story. Editors there and at the Los Angeles Times and Wall Street Journal who also had pieces of the scoop should have waited to publish it, at least until they could be more certain that the snooping program was no longer useful.

Gal Beckerman:

The unfortunate bit about this episode is that there is actually an interesting and crucial conversation to be had over this issue - one that [New York Times Editor Bill] Keller himself, along with his Los Angeles Times counterpart, Dean Baquet, tried to initiate last week, and one that was then picked up by a number of prominent journalism school deans, writing by committee on the Washington Post's op-ed page.

But how is Keller, or anyone, supposed to have a reasoned debate when your opponent on the other side is producing little more than spittle and bile?

Hugh Hewitt, interviewing Times op-ed columnist Jonathan Chait:

HH: He's really sort of the superego of the Los Angeles Times, in my view, sort of the uber-columnist for the Los Angeles Times. Jonathan…

JC: What an odd position for me to have attained, despite never having set foot in their newsroom.

HH: I know. That's why it's such an interesting newspaper. They've totally absorbed you without you even having been there.

Hugh Hewitt:

An examination of the leadership lineage of the four major dailies that are widely and correctly understood to be very left of center in this country –the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe and the Los Angeles Times—reveals that much of the dysfunction of these newsrooms may fairly be traced to inbreeding among their elites.

The cloistered word of big papers breeds its own peculiar type of leader, always selected from within the world of the big papers, always carrying forward to the top the same assumptions of importance and privilege, the same world view and indeed the same unusual combination of arrogance and limited experience that defines big journalism.

Ken Reich: "Sonni Efron's Basayev Column On LAT Op-Ed Page A Masterpiece."

Hugh Hewitt:

When the death scene of Bombay --and London, Madrid, Beslan, Jerusalem, Egypt,Jordan, Bali etc-- is recreated here, then will people look back at the recklessness of Bill Keller, Dean Baquet and other Bush-hating hyper-partisans and demand an accounting.

It may take a decade, or a generation, or even longer, but if these papers survive (and there is great doubt on that score at least as regards the Los Angeles Times) a day will come when their editors issue an apology for the fecklessness. It will be too late for some future victims, but like Walter Duranty, Keller and Baquet will eventually be discredited and their papers shamed.

Kent, of RightFromLeft: "Bill Keller and Dean Baquet have failed miserably to do their jobs."

David Limbaugh:

[T]heir previous good deeds do nothing to undo the damage they deliberately inflicted on the national interest and American lives by exposing details of a live-saving program. A first-time murderer is still a murderer. His formerly pristine record will not make his victim any less dead.

Comments

LA Times buys into Associated Press' censorship of
any news regarding the world's most powerful, proven firefighting airplane; probably because it's Russian.

Not the author of Star Trek and Aliens, however. He's got more on the ball than the entire editorial board at the Times.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/0625sunlets251.html

I read at least three newspapers daily. Your newspaper is one of the better ones on this sadly barren national plain. While your editorial stance is left-leaning, I find it a welcome relief from what passes as unbiased reporting in other papers and media outlets. With our nation reeling under the Bush adminisration's arrogance and seemingly irreversiable blunders, this country needs a strong, intelligent voice of dissent. Thank you for providing one voice in a too small chorus.

It is easy to see why some newspapers are being attacked by the right wing when it is pointed out that the emperor has no clothes. Any honest balanced opinion is evidence of a left wing bias by this group regardless of the large amount of opinion for their side that is also contained in the pages of the Times. My quarrel is the acceptance screwball right wing opinion as balancing the truth which is now labeled subversive by the Republican Administration. I know you frequently weigh the merits of candidates and propositions during election campaigns, but I think you should do that all the time. If a Democrat shaves the truth or if a Republican shaves the truth you should at least have an explanatory box nearby that shows why the statement is not the truth. This should be both on the opinion pages and on the news pages. And please label it loony when it is. No more "The earth is flat and speaking for the other side" controversies, please.

Why are brain dead idealogues able to repeatedly assert things like the existence of weapons of mass destruction without the Times doing a little summary of the overwhelming evidence against it? Otherwise you are just giving them a platform to lie whether it is an op-ed or the Vice President is being quoted again in a news article.

Frankly, I think the right is hurting responsible newspapers like the Times the same way they hurt Kerry. People believe unsubstantiated lies unless there is an immediate, loud, and aggressive defense by the person or institution being smeared. It is why they talked about the NY Times and not so much about the LA Times or the Wall Street Journal in the latest treason calling scandal. The WSJ is really their friend. If they can cow the NY Times. Then the LA Times will be easy.

Last point. I am sure you notice a difference in some the criticism. The right and all their talk radio "brown shirts" do what they are told and call the Times traitorous. The criticism from the center(there is no left in this country)is usually angry because you did not take some facts into account, failed to give them proper consideration before expressing an opinion or gave an unchallenged platform to a wild eyed right wing hate monger.

I am embarrassed for Hugh Hewitt. Doesn't he get enough exposure of his poorly thought out invective on his radio show? Thinking is not the same as reviewing your prejudices.

You know, the founding fathers were a LOT more concerned with an obtrusive, overly powerful, unilateral government that was opaque to its citizens and largely unanswerable, than to the threats faced by their world's superpower, led by King George.

Their response was the Bill of Rights, the FIRST amendment listing being that of unfettering the press. They also felt separating US government's powers and having checks and balances (no vertical integration of gov't power) was essential to our founding.

So those that feel that the press is a threat, that GW Bush has unilateral authority over the courts and Congress, I ask, do you REALLY think you're smarter than all those old guys in pantaloons and wigs (well, not Jefferson cuz he had fashion sense)?

Are you guys Americans or what?

The L.A. Times will always be the newspaper of choice in Southern California.

There is a new formidable allie in the search of truth and that is the blogosphere.

The economic dynamics of this newly formed social institution is changing and is unpredictable as the future.

However, there is no reason to be alarmed. The many sources of news will always be co-dependent on the strength of each other.

Whether it be print media, television media or internet media, all these sources of information are allies in the search for truth and none are in competition with each other, at least from a pragmatic sense.

Thanks,

Bad Ben

I used to love the Times. I used to love the Sunday paper and felt I could not live without it...until I got sick and tired of the liberal bias. Just sick of it. Went to certain places on the net I could trust more and decided that, even though I enjoy the fashion and travel section as much as opinion...it's not worth the frustration to pay $1.50 every week to get a very biased view. I don't miss it!!! I'll read the Times for FREE at a coffeehouse but will not pay for it.

The New York Times is running a rather precious photo essay by one of their photojournalists embedded with the Mahdi Army while it is fighting US troops. One of the images had this caption: "A sniper loyal to Shiite cleric Moqtada al Sadr fires towards U.S. positions in the cemetery in Najaf, Iraq."
Someone explain to me and all the military families out there how this isn't abject treason?

I learned to read growing up with the times and read it daily until the late 80's. I used to pay extra to buy it when I traveled, but no longer. You have become to biased, too stuck in the forest of far leftist defeatism rhetoric. Then there is the issue of your disgusting anti Israel bias with one sided discredited propaganda. When I felt like I was reading a paper from 1930s Germany, it was time to cancel my subscription and insist everyone I knew should cancel theirs.
I found it amazing that my complaints documenting your bias were rebuffed as if requesting balance would cause the moon to rotate the earth in another direction. If anyone at the times needs my help after getting bitten by a snake, you better be ready to meet your maker. But you can bet I would take some great pictures rather than go for help.

Thomas Jefferson said that he would rather live ina country that had newspapers, and no government rather than live in a country that had government and no newspapers.

I think conservatives are pissed because the N.Y. times and the L.A. times are providing a service that the Democratic party doesn't have the balls to do. Kudos to these fine newspapers.

I love the times, keep doing what it is that you guys do. Thank you for being the 4 tier in the checks and balances on the government

I have tried the N.Y. Times as I think the nation considers them our top newspaper, but they choose to ignore me. I have also tried the L.A. Times for publication of a good news story regarding evolution (thanks for today's opinion from Dr. Barash), but have been turned away.

In 10 years times, I have talked to city officials, written many emails (more to help myself adjust to the idea) and not seemingly convinced anyone about the idea's validity. Anyway, I did decipher the idea from my reading. Even that much should be applauded. I hope you have a chance to look over my webpage and AGAIN consider that people might like to read what I have to say.

Brenda Tucker

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